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Hard News 09/26/08


Today someone on the Warhammer staff does the right thing for the people who belong in the credits, Rare says that there is no chance of a Killer Instinct remake that makes Destin rant, and Craig......or is it Ben, has his pick of the week from http://www.videogamecountdown.com.
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wow

awesome hard new
keep it up

NOTHIN BETTER!

than screwattack! LOL at Destin's Frustation - LOOK AT "CRAIG" AND HIS KAPOOWWWSS- hahaha

screwAttack kicks ass!

WOW is right!

Way to piss off Dustin and the gaming community RARE, your games as of late are mediocre at best and when a "small" as they put it part of the fans they have left say give us KI, you give them the thumbs up... the ass! Seriously thats why Capcom is where making money like diarrea atm machine and you guys are trying to just get a wiff of that money!

SCREW RARE!

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Uh huh

You can feel the anger in his finger at the end. Awesome.

DBZ rocks

What is Destin talking about?

Srsly. The game isn't even

Srsly. The game isn't even based on DBZ, and from what I'v seen, it looks pretty good. Quite honestly, I'm not sure if Destin has ever played a Dragon Ball game before. :P

Also, how could he be playing Street Fighter 4 instead of Banjo if Street Fighter 4 comes out next year? ALSO, don't you think Street Fighter 4 is a REALLY bad example?
Think about it, Capcom has released a FUCK TON of Street Fighter games, and Destin complains about Rare releasing a fifth Banjo game? LOLOLOLOLOL!

huh...

Duh... the game ISN'T based on Dragonball Z... but it is based on Dragonball... That's goku, bulma when they were "kids" before all the sayain crap and on being good or bad, we'll see... I've played a lot of DBZ games... and yeah most of them suck balls XD

yay hardnews hehe its always

yay hardnews hehe its always awesome

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what?

come on lego batman is awesome i had the choice to go online halo 3 and get new armour or play batman... i played lego batman its that good

Geez

That was quite the rant XD

Destin mad...

Destin smash Rare!

Rant

*Points in the direction of Rare* Sick'em Destin.

Destin screwattacks Rare

Destin screwattacks Rare with lolazer.

*CRITICAL STRIKE*

The attack is very effective.

Destin deals 1337 hate damage to Rare.

Rare flees from Destin.

AWESOME!

Destin Level UP!

9292008 Exp Gained.

yeah!

there is nothing better than getting home from a long day at work and finding a hard news waiting

For once, the only time we can live, is while we are breathing.

I think ti is stupid how people thought Bungie would put a joke about the missing girl into the new H3 expansion

KI

Wow, you must really want KI. I played it a little as a kid on the SNES but never got into it. Seems silly Rare wouldn't make a game that could make them a lot of money. But then again, it might not because it really is a game for die-hard fans.

Also, Capcom may produce great updates to their franchises but then they also are known to run things into the ground. For every good mega man game there are 10 shitty ones (Starforce or whatever its called). Not to mention the 8,827,383 x 10^19 releases of SF2.

Craig are you sick?

you looked kinda strange.

That was awesome1

I can't believe they aren't making a new KI...That's just lika saying:''Yeah...We don't like cash!''

Holy Crap Rare.

Why aren't you making KI, HOLY SHIT!!! Banjo-Garbage.....AGAIN!!! Destin, keep up the awesome work. That is all.

Holy shiz

Craig's hat looks ready for retirement. :P

Best Rant Ever..

I gave up on Rare after Microsoft bought them and they continued to shell out one shitty game after another...

only decent game they've made since Goldeneye is Viva Pinata... which I am loving on my DS it's like a visually stunted 360 in my pocket!

NJ Destin

Seriously, Rare needs to grow some balls

Harsh words for Rare

but I'm sure many people agree. It would be really great to see another KI but that's not going to happen unless someone accepts to do free labour for them and come up with that so-called revolutionary idea.

Maybe they don't want to make KI "just another" fighting game that doesn't add anything new from other fighting games?

Without trying to come

Without trying to come across as biased, I think that's a bit harsh. I do agree that seeing another Killer Instinct would be freakin' amazing, but I can see where they're coming from when they say that they don't just want to make a game for the sake of doing so, while not adding anything new to the genre.

They had the same problem with Banjo for awhile. They did work on a third installment for a while, but scrapped it simply because it seemed like more of the same. Therefore, they waited until the time was right, and came up with Nuts and Bolts. Now, while I'm not saying that the game will be a revolutionary title, it does look like they're doing something new. I sure as hell haven't seen another platformer take this approach. As for not paying attention to their fans, if you go around to sites such as RareWitchProject,
you'll see that they really do interact with them. Maybe not quite on the level of Bungie, but certainly more than other developers. Again, I'm not trying to come across as biased, given the username that I have, but I really feel that Rare has a great amount of appreciation for their fans, and they're not just out to disappoint their fans. Indeed, I was not much a fan of Perfect Dark Zero at all, and thought that that was a pretty big mistake on both their part and Microsofts. The game simply needed a better script, for one, and much more development time.

Again, though, as much as I'd love to see another Killer Instinct, I really don't think that their response to making an another one was an "intentional" slap in the face to fans. ;) So, while I'm probably just going to be called a fanboy for saying this, I can see where they're coming from. And yeah, maybe I'm just not looking in the right places, but from the Rare fan sites that I do go to, there hasn't really been this "huge" demand for another Killer Instinct, and while I do think it would be cool to see another, the news that there won't be one any time soon really isn't that big of a deal to me, personally.

Thats bullshit. They've

Thats bullshit. They've been making games for the sake of making them forever, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing the 5th Banjoo Kazooie, 2nd Viva Pinata, and the 2nd Perfect Dark game. If they were going to do something truly revolutionary, they would create a new IP, and not hide behind this veil of "we dont make games just to make them." It's a blatant lie. They don't care about their fans, they care about their pocket books, and soon their going to realize that companies who make GOOD games that their fans want, get the big paycheck. Companies who tell their fans they're stupid for wanting a favorite franchise revitalized get exactly what they deserve. Bad reviews, and low sales.

As for you talking about how they interact with their fans, thats great, but the guys who control the money don't care. They've ditched Donkey Kong Country (another of my favorites), made a patheticly average Starfox game on the Gamecube, ditched Battletoads (which would be another amazing franchise to revive), and either wont or cant release a Goldeneye port to the 360. With studios like Ensemble being shut down, and Rare's obvious inability to make the jump to next gen I have to wonder...was Ensemble the right choice, or should Microsoft have looked a little closer to home?

For one, I don't seem to

For one, I don't seem to recall their games getting bad reviews, Destin, save for Grabbed by the Ghoulies (which I personally liked), and a few for PDZ (I think that the good reception that it did get was simply because it was a launch title). Viva Pinata, although it didn't sell too well (as is the case with most of their games nowadays, as you said), was widely received as a return to form from Rare. So, it only made sense to do a sequel, which has currently been getting some fine scores, as well, and fans of the original seem to be lovin' it. Now, again, I will agree with you that Perfect Dark Zero was a huge mistake. It was outdated, with horrible character design, a lame story, and overall, it doesn't stand a chance against something like Call of Duty 4 or Halo 3.

Also, the Donkey Kong Country franchise belongs to Nintendo, though I suppose that they could just make a DS game, as they are still able to do that. And I really enjoyed Star Fox Adventures. Yeah, I didn't enjoy it as much as Star Fox 64, but I thought it was a nice take on the series. As for Goldeneye, they had intended on releasing the game on the XBLA (there were even some screenshots released for it awhile back), but the fact that it wasn't released was Nintendo's doing, according to most sources.

So, yes, I can see where you're coming from Destin, especially in regards to Perfect Dark Zero, but I'm just trying to look at this from their perspective as well. However, I'm a little confused when you say that they should try something completely revolutionary by making a new IP, and then going on to say that they should revive their old franchises. Now, to be fair, a game doesn't have to revolutionary to be good. And maybe I'm just not looking in the right places, as I've said before, but from what I've seen, there really hasn't been a tremendous outcry for a new KI game. I'm not saying that there isn't anybody asking for another. Clearly there are. But it seems to be a minority, as Rare said. There seem to have been more of one for Banjo-Kazooie, which they have finally gotten around to. And it's not as if they have to revive all of their old franchises. Unlike other developers, Rare seems to have the right balance of old and new. So, rather than being a problem with simply listening to the fans, to me, this just comes down to whether you or I think that their games suck or not. And with that said, I do respect your opinion, Destin. I'm not saying "OMG DONT BASH RAR. U DUN KNO WUT UR TALKIN BOUT" You don't have to enjoy their games, obviously, and call me a fanboy if you want, but I disagree with the idea that they don't care about their fans. ;)

WTF????

Why is everyone making SUPER long replys to this comment. seriously guys, i have seen like 4 paragraphs in response to this comment.

Preach!!!

I agree with Destin!
I mean... WTF, Rare! Don't you know already that kids games and Xbox 360 don't mix well anymore? If you want to sell big and and make a game suitable to it's demographic, THEN MAKE KI3 GODDAMN IT!!!

OMG, RARE SUCKS?

Yea, awsome news as allways!

But that last part made me laugh, rare are so stupid.. i sure as hell will be doing the same thing as you, Kickass at Street fighter instead of some crappy looking Banjo kazooie game..

Woah Destin, seriously take

Woah Destin, seriously take it easy, your gonna give yourself a heart attack with the stress!

UUHHHHH!!!

GIVE IT TO EM DESTIN hahaha You can see DESTINS HARD EMOTION AND LOVE FOR CAPCOMS STREET FIGHTER!!!

screwAttack kicks ass!

My Hero!!!11!1!!!

After that speech.. Destin you have become my new hero...

Destin for 2012!!!!

Wow destin pwn Rare

LOOOL your so right about them , you totaly pwn rare with that argue . Plus , they keep mocking of nintendo in banjo... blots and NUTS , ,they going to make banjo kazooie availabe and the Xbox live arcade but not on the virtual console , and on the top of that they tell to shut the fuck up to K-I fan ..... I really don't respect Rare anymore , and still ... It missing me to not have a brand new good DK game

MOTHERFUCKING EPIC!!!!!!

Destin, mad props for that rant! You are so right.
I guess that's why Capcom's my favorite developer and Rare sucks. I'm Digging this!
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wow, I agree with Destin Rant!

I agree, comparing now to Capcom and Rare, we see a huge problem right now with Rare and with Peter Moore leading, I am afrraid that Rare will surely die.
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I got Two Words for Rare

Rare if you don't want to make another KI game, well then I got Two Words for You. SUCK IT!

Capcom FTW

Just remake them

Imagine both Killer instinct games remade and packaged together for like $20-$30, that would be so cool! Add online play, some achievements and you'd sell over 100k easy! Damn, how come the people at capcom are the only intelligent owners of old ips?

Wow, that was a very

Wow, that was a very passionate and coherent rant Destin.

Another great episode.

lol

Yes destin, you tell them to shut the hell up and start listening to fans, thats the way to do business .

On DB ds game, almost all games based on Movies/cartoon/show are really very bad, and for dragon ball its been hard because they have been trying to extend its franchise life too long(over 15 years and having atari as its developer doesn't help either). But this one seems to be doing huge in japan, its the first game in a long time that its been developed entirely in japan(atari will just be the publisher here) and its finally an adveture game, I just hope they don't censor/dub/translate as the American publishers use to do or it will surely suck balls.

And Im already playing kirby... this year has showed that retro gaming is the way of the future.

Life is just a dream...

Uh..

Atari ISN'T the developer. Atari's so deep in the ground, they only publish the games in the US. The games are all made in Japan.

Epic! Lots of vitriol, just

Epic! Lots of vitriol, just the way I like it.

Cheer up, Destin! It's

Cheer up, Destin! It's Friday! ^.^
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you know, i think you

you know, i think you answered your own thing about rare not making KI3. If people hated when they made PDZ so much, why would they go the same route essentially rehashing a game again?

Kickass yet again

*agreeance with Destin*

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Wow, he's really pissed

Wow, he's really pissed today, though for good reason. Meh, I gave up on Rare awhile ago.

"He's on Fire!!"

Nice ranting Destin. You are on fire, keep it up

O_O

DESTIN SMASH!

No wonder people like capcom better.

Well anyway I thought Craigs pick of the week would be maga man 9! He said it himself during out of the box! oh well, that wasn't even craig anyway and I am so getting MM9!!!

It would be, if MM9 could be

It would be, if MM9 could be bought on videogamecountdown.com... oh well.

Dude

Don't dis Banjo Kazooie Durstin

DragonBall Z sucks?

Looks like I need to kick Destins ass in Tenkaichi 3 for the PS2. If only it was online for the PS2.

"I may suck, but I'm still better than you." -Punnha Nom

Street Fighter IV

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Go Street Fighter and Capcom :D

Sonic Boom!

Indeed sir! I will be ready to take all of you on with Guile on XBL when the game is released...yeah!

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can someone explain to me

can someone explain to me why... oh god why... rare never release a real console version of Killer Instinct 1?

Fuckin' A, Sir...Fuckin' A...

Rare is going to take a serious kick in the financial teeth by releasing another Banjo Kazooie. Even Midway keeps throwing money at Mortal Kombat and SNK with the King of Fighters Series. Hell, Didn't I just see a friggin' Japanese trailer for KOF XII on GT?

Rare needs to take a note from their fighting game bretheren and get their heads out of their asses and realize there is still huge market for fighting games. A new KI would be ground breaking news in anyone's eyes.

Destin...Fight the good fight, sir!

-Dustin-

Excellent rant dusto

I agree 100%, even though I love Banjo Kazooie a whole lot, Id much rather have KI 3

**** YEAH!

That last part made my day.

I want Killer Instinct too.

Guess what...Destin...

I'll also be playing STREET FIGHTER IV (does the hand motion)

hahahahaha.

Oh and also.

RARE blows.
CAPCOM FREAKIN RULES.

DBZ had a few good games,

DBZ had a few good games, Budikai 3, Legacy of Goku 2, and tenkaiichi 2+3.

Meh

The only fun DBZ game was Final bout.

I didn't like Final Bout.

I didn't like Final Bout. the controls were slugish and goku was way overpowered and broken.

"I may suck, but I'm still better than you." -Punnha Nom

No KI, your suprised

Nintendo has done the to Earthbound the a few years, Now rare is doing the same thing.

Craig looks sexier than ever!

No really! I can't tell what it is, but, he just is.

Fuck you RARE.

oh no u dont say that to dragon ball

i shall keep my anger in check dustin....but dont pull the strings again...

Destin's ultimate pwnage!

Destin's ultimate pwnage!

Man, Derrick got fucking

Man, Derrick got fucking pissed today! Almost as funny as the AVGN.

I just got my new Xbox 360. Don't expect to see me outside for the next month or so.

Destin.

It's Destin.

Destin ftw

A true warrior enters the battle with all his skills at the ready!!

Destin i have even more respect now than b4 you are 100% right this is the reason capcom is the best 3th part they go out of there way to make sure there fans are happy =D. btw this is my vary first comment for your show it rocks!!

Rare

That's right Destin, stick it to Rare, cuz' I'll be playing SFIV with you. Keep up the great work!

take that, Rare

That was a fantastic rant. Way to own, Destin.