When the services (XBLA, PSN, etc) are done or gone, while you may own the game you won’t be able to play the DLC... will you?

10/21/12 11:54pm

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Sol-Raith

October 27, 2012 - 8:13pm

I don't think I have any games that require this, but I can see where this could become a problem. Only thing I can think of is Diablo III, maybe... not sure, I haven't bought the game yet.

Nitroklop

October 24, 2012 - 11:40pm

This is one of the reasons why I buy mostly only physical versions of games, and try to stay away from online play and dlc.

HavocBlack

October 24, 2012 - 10:08pm

I think of this every time i buy a game online

GoldenCat12

October 22, 2012 - 8:36pm

I HATE ONLINE PASSES EVEN THE ONES U HAVE TO BUY ON PSHOME

Big problem with storage and ownership coming to us in the future. I'm sure Microsoft and Sony will have a way to make money off of it, but really it's a sign that gaming has become more complicated than gaming had a right to be.

Sidescroller Def

October 22, 2012 - 5:04pm

Wait, that's how the DLC works? You still need to use the internet to access your content after you purchase and download it? Or is that just for games like COD and Halo?

Skovia

October 22, 2012 - 6:29pm

it's not like that. If you still have it on your console or pc then you can still play it even offline (if the content is for singleplayer gaming). but if for whatever reason you delete it you can't get them back

brunbb

October 22, 2012 - 9:07pm

some games require you to be online to use the DLC, even playing single player

ILikeHaruhiSuzumiya

October 22, 2012 - 4:41pm

I believe it could be possible to torrent the DLC, and mod the console so that you can put it on a USB flash drive or something, put it in, and transfer it onto the console's hard drive.

King Meatball I

October 22, 2012 - 3:29pm

That could also be expanded to digital games in general once they get delisted or removed. If anything bad were to happen to your harddrive or account itself, no longer able to access those games you own.

caboose_-1

October 22, 2012 - 11:13am

This is why I'm so wary of always online games or games that focus most of their attention to multiplayer.

PhantomExdeath

October 22, 2012 - 7:15am

This is the reason why I don't want the gaming industry to go all digital. Yo servers down, I can't play ANY games? FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THAT SHIT! Gimme my case + Manual and game disc >:V

Envy_Dub

October 22, 2012 - 7:41pm

Ah yes, "going all digital." That's assuming that every gamer has a way to play online, though it's not to say I don't, but still, that can be the biggest mistake a console manufacturing company can ever make.

Icipall

October 22, 2012 - 8:47am

Amen.

Toadnado

October 22, 2012 - 2:37am

When the services (XBLA, PSN, etc) are done or gone...you won't live that long.

In case of maintenance they're up again shortly and if it was a hacker that shut PSN/XBLA down you have to worry about other things than DLC.

Also until now you gave anough reasons not to buy the DLC so...

At those asking about Steam: Every singleplayer game can be played in offline mode unless it needs SteamWorks, which are not many and most of them are Online-Multiplayer Games from Valve, which again aren't many in comparison to those that don't use steamworks. If Steam/Valve sees them going down and shutting down the servers they might provide the users a install.exe with the necessary files. The only downside is you need a fuckton of space on the hard drive if you have many or big sized games on steam. Think of it similar as GOG is doing it. Where they give you an archived install.

Also if you worry about Steam you should about Blizzard Service because they have the same resources to keep them up for a long time.

BTW There are programs that let you install steam games without steam itself but only some scurvy dogs use them right now.

Just don't worry to much.

I'm more worried about the possibility of gaming going streamplatform and without internet you don't own your own games anymore.

pre10do64

October 22, 2012 - 2:59pm

As time passes formats change, business models changes, companies go broke, get bought, get folded into other companies and etc. I don't expect XBLA or PSN to be around in another 25 years. Not saying that Microsoft and Sony won't be here, just these services and servers. It's the nature of the beast that is becoming more beastly.

Toadnado

October 23, 2012 - 1:34am

Microsoft and Sony won't go broke that fast with consoles not beeing their only market they have. They also won't get bought that fast. Like what is greater than Sony and Microsoft that can buy them?

Well the PSN is getting or already is named to SEN which would indicate me that it stays for a long time.

Some should just stop worrying. Both won't go bancrupt/get bought within a day and the next PSN and XBLA goes down. They, if they want to keep the player base, will notify anyone way ahead if something like that happens and will provide something to keep them playing.

Even Star Wars Galaxies did get a half a year note before it got shut down.

I rather would worry about the hard drive space when needed to download every single of the DLC for your games or just some PSN/SEN Games.

pre10do64

October 23, 2012 - 2:44pm

I wasn't saying they would go broke, but rather they would change their services and formats as time passes. Out with the old, in with new, you know? And eventually way down the road the companies may not exist anymore for whatever reasons, being bankruptcy or lucrative deals. You can predict the financial future of companies. At any rate, I like having hard copies of stuff because even if you don't look at it in forever you can pass it down to family members and it is much easier to sell if you ever wish or need to do so. I don't mind buying dlc add-ons like map packs because those won't be worth a flip if you're not playing online anyway, but I don't like they idea of buying full games digitally and not being able to play them without internet. I've had to sacrifice my internet several times on account for a lack of funds and would be really mad if I couldn't play my games during those dark hours.

Toadnado

October 24, 2012 - 1:52am

In these times it wouldn't hurt to save some money up and buy a big hard drive for your console. Gamers fearing the moment of not beeing able to download their games, should have one and download everything. The metaphorical shelve on where you have your game collection is not a server, it is a hard drive. So after having everything on the hard drive in the console you can pass down the hard drive or the console itself. I accept it that people are so used to get hard copies that they don't like download services but at least adapt instead of reject.

The fact still stays that it won't happen on the next second without hearing any news from sony/microsoft.

pre10do64

October 23, 2012 - 2:42pm

pre10do64

October 23, 2012 - 2:41pm

pre10do64

October 23, 2012 - 2:41pm

xeroph

October 22, 2012 - 2:19am

I don't see the problem with GOTY since some people might not have the internet for whatever reason. Its also a bit cheaper than buy the game and DLC.

Icipall

October 22, 2012 - 1:59am

This is the reason I am wary of all download services.

FLoridian Joshua

October 22, 2012 - 9:00am

Don't forget about the PSN haked too.

Evil Ivan

October 22, 2012 - 2:54am

Same here.

Kaibaman41

October 22, 2012 - 1:34am

This....actually does scare me a little not going to lie

mas8705

October 22, 2012 - 12:52am

The cruel irony of the times that we live in. Previously, you can find games online, but if and when the time comes when the 360 and PS3 services are gone, so much will be lost. Granted this probably won't happen for a long time, but it is a rather ironic realization.

Tom the Iron Man

October 22, 2012 - 12:20am

Case in point: when service for Xbox Live to the original Xboxes was shut down, I spent the last two weeks before it downloading all the DLC to my 360 and my original Xbox because I knew I would never get it again.

Also, Steam, same question posed to you: what are you gonna do about it?

NemesisTrestkon

October 22, 2012 - 1:56am

If it were possible, I would store each of my games in a disc or something.

Tom the Iron Man

October 22, 2012 - 6:38am

Well these days it's a tad bit easier since both the 360/PS3/Wii allow you put these things on a mass storage device like USB flash drive/hard drive or a SD card. Now let the paranoia set in and ask yourself how many times will you back it up on how many devices until you feel safe that the data is secure?

darkhyrulelord

October 22, 2012 - 12:12am

Well...in a sense no but I'm sure they will rerelease them later will all DLC included (much like those GOTY editions). GOTY editions kinda bugged me because of the title....shouldn't there really be only ONE game of the year for that certain year?