It’s just ruined the perception of some of our favorite companies

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Jing412

October 24, 2012 - 10:47pm

I still like Capcom their games are still fun

SFDefender4Life

October 22, 2012 - 8:42pm

Very true, if it is on the disc, then it's part of the purchase. Damn greedy bastards >:(

What I've been wondering is why Capcom would make an update rehash of Marvel vs. Capcom 3, a game that a lot of us have been looking forward to for so long, within the same year as the game's release!

EliteGamerX

October 23, 2012 - 5:45am

Are you looking for an official statement or a personal opinion?

Envy_Dub

October 24, 2012 - 5:56pm

An official statement, even though they said they had to do it instead of DLC because of the earthquake (excuses, excuses).

Sidescroller Def

October 22, 2012 - 5:02pm

I draw the line at Asura's Wrath DLC, or wait, what about Final Fantasy IV: The After Years DLC on the Wii? That was just awful.

Superzone

October 29, 2012 - 2:52pm

Capcom doesn't make the Final Fantasy games, that's Square Enix. Also, The After Years wasn't DLC, it was a sequel to FF IV.

Sidescroller Def

October 29, 2012 - 4:56pm

First of all, I know Square Enix makes Final Fantasy games. EVERYONE knows that. Second, if you've seen The After Years on the Wii, you'd know that the initial 800 Wii Points is only the Prelude, Ceodore's Tale, and Kain's Tale. Every other Tale costs 300 Wii Points as DLC, and the last half of the main story is also DLC at 800 Wii Points. It hasn't exactly ruined my faith in Square Enix, but this still ranks pretty high up there in the DLC crimes list.

Mach5Mike

October 22, 2012 - 4:59pm

I'd like to take this one step further, DLC (in my opinion) practically ruined the perception of good game design.

Custers Revenge

October 22, 2012 - 12:16pm

I don't see the issue here. On disc DLC isn't a big deal really. Michael Pachter explained it very well, but for the most part just because it's on the disc doesn't mean you have any legal right to all its content. The point is consoles have limited hard drive space so keeping the bulk of the data on the disc saves the consumer hard drive space, that's how a publisher would see it. To the consumer it's treated like the biggest scam in history. It does suck dropping $60 and having more to buy but in most cases, it's still 100% optional content. Even Capcom is far from the worst at it. THQ never seems to get any flack for it like WWE '12 and '13 having over a dozen on disc DLC characters with a day one $20 season pass for them. Capcom does it and because they're the publisher who canceled 2 Mega Man games they must be evil no matter what good games they publish and forget the publisher, let's flame the developer too. As for free unlocks, it's not the same. These are extra characters, costumes, map packs, weapons, whatever the game has but it's extra stuff made for DLC, the fact of the matter is they are making it and no matter what it will be released as DLC whether it's a full download or on disc. In previous console gens what you unlock was typically pallet swaps and big head mode, hardly the effort of making brand new content from scratch or adding to content by creating all new stuff to put on it like the costumes. If you don't like the DLC, don't buy it. If the game sounds fun then play it instead of brooding over it because you don't like the publisher, by not buying the game you're sending the message that people don't want this game series and they'll probably pull the plug on it like Mega Man.

Tknight

October 22, 2012 - 2:55pm

Okay, I'm going to do my best to explain this without being a total tool about it. Michael Pachter's explanation, though "sound", is not good. It's like that parlor trick Vinny explained, from My Cousin Vinny, about the lawyer. I'll give two better explanations. When we compare a subscription based product versus a single purchase produced in video games there are MMO's and there are console games. The whole "satellite" subscription service has more in common with an MMO. Like, if you want the full content you pay the subscription fee and any other fee for additional content from a "service". Which is what a satellite company and a MMO company are most of the time, a service. A single product purchase of a $60 game is not a service. It's like a DVD movie you paid $30 for, but to "unlock" the rest of the content from the disk you pay more. Like even MORE special features, you pay an extra $5+ dollars for the commentaries they had on the disk, but didn't finish it completely. Is the commentary necessary to enjoy the movie you spent $30 on already? No, but your saying it's okay for THAT type of content to be on the disk and must be paid to be unlocked? That just isn't right. Remember, you do have consumer rights to not be ripped off like that.

caboose_-1

October 22, 2012 - 11:08am

Like Chad said, "What happened to you Capcom?"

Lloyf

October 22, 2012 - 2:46pm

It turned into capcpom.

Mr_Awesome

October 22, 2012 - 12:13pm

I read that in Chad's voice o_0

Alester Reeves

October 22, 2012 - 10:49am

Fuckin megaman x maverik hunter BEING PSP ONLY!! WTF CAPCOM/SONY Go fuck yourselves with megaman legends 3 asshats.

ZigTheHunter

October 23, 2012 - 2:46am

That has nothing to do with DLC.

zomboy

October 22, 2012 - 10:36am

I know right! No Alt. costume for Magneto in UMVC3! Bullshit!

Kuei

October 22, 2012 - 4:05pm

That's because they got legal issues from the Spanish royal family because it looks like the king

FLoridian Joshua

October 22, 2012 - 8:56am

DLC: A ways for beloved game developers to become the most hated thing in fandom since Micheal Bay.

NinjaRed64

October 22, 2012 - 8:25am

If the DLC is on the disc, why not just make it unlockable like the good ol' days? Greedy bastards

They Call Me The Fizz

October 22, 2012 - 8:22am

Talk about a self-inflicted black eye...

PhantomExdeath

October 22, 2012 - 7:11am

Remember when Capcom Didn't rerelease fighting games with balance updates/roster changes? Oh wait...*looks at Game Library*Hmm... Street Fighter II, Street Fighter II Turbo, Super Street Fighter II, Street Fighter II Special Championship Edition, Super Street Fighter II Turbo... ehhh so umm, how are they any different from them old days now?

ZigTheHunter

October 23, 2012 - 2:53am

In my eyes a company is a company to make money first, and Capcom hasn't really changed, but the tools they have been given has exposed their true intentions, if they could have done the same back then, they probably would.

ZigTheHunter

October 23, 2012 - 2:51am

Well the reason for all the re-releases back then was simple, there was no other way to update a game and people wanted gameplay tweaks, new characters, etc. Invested People wanted it back then. now? No one is asking for this kind of stuff because there is a better alternative, yet they decide to stick in there old ways, except when it could possibly be used to get them more money, then there all aboard DLC.