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BlueBlur91 Rants: Sexism in Video Games

2/11/13 2:00pm
tl;dr

Are video games, in general, offensive towards the fairer sex? Are they unfair to girls? Or is sexism a two way street, where you can pinpoint a tiny detail about ANY game and brand it "sexist"?

*DISCLAIMER* 

 I do not, in any sense, condone any sort of blatant, offensive sexism, in any form.

I also acknowledge the fact that there ARE games out there that portray women as nothing more than a mere object of desire and appeal, as you will find out if you read on.

Please enjoy the read.

 

[The Source]

If you're a gamer, and let's face it, you probably are if you're browsing this site, then you know exactly what games are all about. While all of them have different setting, objectives and content, I think it's fair to say that games are all about displaying and expressing creativity. Experiencing a story, whether it's one you determine yourself, or one where you play a role of a character. Then there are games that don't have a story at all. These games tend to focus more on giving you an experience through gameplay and visuals. Many games do all of the above.

But do games mold and shape you as a person? Do they change your view of things, such as the value of life and the sentence for committing crime?

As with media, they would have you believe that video games not only turn children violent but undermine, offend and bully women. Video Games are an easy target for this controversy because the market happens to be dominated by males, and thus, creators tend to mold female characters to fit the male playing the game. Whether that is putting her in skimpy clothing or giving her a perfect figure, or face, seems to be offensive on all accounts. But do women really have the right to cry fowl and label the entire industry as sexist?

Sexism towards women in games

I actually don't think video games are unfair to women. I think women are unfair to video games. And I think this for various reasons, mainly because of the points feminist raise. There are loads of vulgar games out there, but feminist only attack petty things about games that, in reality, have no sexism in it. Things like Lara Croft's bust, for example.

Don't know Lara Croft? Let me give you a quick rundown.

Lara Croft is a hyper-athletic, super-intelligent archeologist, who through all of her adventures treks into extremely dangerous places, riddled with traps, wild predators, and hired goons out to put a bullet in her head.

Armed with two thigh-strapped pistols, Lara deals with the latter two problems. The rest are completely up to her physical abilities to climb ledges, solve puzzles and performing step-by-step acrobatic maneuvers flawlessly in order to save herself from falling to her death.

Yet with that portfolio, media labels this character as sexist. Degrading to women. Why? Because during Lara's original development, a graphic designer "accidentally" miscalculated the values of the polygons forming her bust, giving her a bigger chest than the character's owner and creator had planned. The creators of the game decided to keep this alteration, ignoring the owner's plea to please keep her original palette. The creator of Lara Croft has since then left Eidos, disgraced by the way the company treated his creation.

Very recently Lara has stirred a bit more controversy regarding an attempted grope/rape scene that supposedly happens in her newest game. The game developers have defended this by stating that "It gives the player a sense of distress towards Lara, and makes them feel more protective of her, and want to keep her out of danger."

Is it fair of Lara's supposed owners to treat a character like this? Absolutely not. Is it fair that they advertised one of her earliest games with her in the shower and having Playboy write an article about her? Absolutely not. Because Lara Croft is a cool enough character to be able to succeed on her own merit. She doesn't need sex to be sold to males as a sex symbol. We'd love the character even if she didn't have zeppelins strapped to her.

This is the wrong game to attack when it comes to sexism. There are games that are actually crude, actually MADE for the simple reason of giving men something to look at. Tomb Raider is the exact opposite of unfairness towards women.

It's like when people attack Metroid because of Zero Suit Samus.

On the left; The Samus everyone knows. The Samus we all loved and played as years and years ago.  Most, if not all of us, always thought Samus was a man. Why? Because Samus never took off her suit throughout the series UNLESS you finished the game under extreme conditions, like finishing the game in under an hour. If you finished the very first game in three to five hours, you were treated to Samus taking off her helmet and revealing her long hair.

But some people never knew Samus was a woman until Smash Brothers: Brawl, funnily enough. This is mainly because of the young age of gamers, who never got the chance to play the Metroid games on the old Nintendo consoles.

Many people claim Samus' zero suit to be borderline nudity. Her second-skin outfit hugs her skin very tightly, revealing a lot of her physical attributes. So what, would you rather have her wear nothing? Or underwear perhaps, like she did in the first ever Metroid? What do YOU suggest a woman should wear under her hyper-evolutionary bounty-hunter space suit?

What's my opinion on this? Well, if you judge a character by what they wear under their main clothes/armor, wouldn't all games just be porn?


 

I bet you are wearing linen underwear under those clothes and armor. WHORES!

Another point feminists bring up while discussing games is that they give men an unrealistic and unfair view of what women SHOULD look like. Here's the deal, we know video games are fake. This is also why no one, ever, goes outside and copies what they did on Grand Theft Auto. People are able to play a game with "hot looking" women in it and come out of it exactly the same. No one ever gets a girlfriend and thinks to himself "I wish my girlfriend had skin consisting of millions of tiny blocks and triangle-boobs".

Furthermore, so what? WOMEN give men an unrealistic view of what they look like! Make-up, millions of types of bras that make your chest look different, hair extensions, corsets, the list goes on!

And if video games treat women unfairly and give people the wrong view of women, you know who is worse off?

MEN!

If there is anything more exaggerated than women, it is men. That´s right. Video games are not "attacking" women or "labeling them as objects of desire and nothing more". Just because you look at a character and she has a good figure and a pretty face, does not mean the game is automatically sexist.

Just because the game includes a princess in distress does, in fact, not make it offensive to women.

"Peach is an extremely sexist character! She is always in trouble and always cries for help! She portrays women as nothing but a pretty face to be chased after!"

Oh. Okay. So in that case ...;

"Mario is an extremely sexist character. He is short and fat, and yet is highly athletic. He spends all his time helping his girlfriend, and let's be fair, they wouldn't have it any other way. He portrays men as fat, unattractive weightlifters who just happen to be a total doormat when it comes to his significant other's needs."

Don't take something and try and twist it into something it's not. Yes, Peach and Zelda are often damsels in distress. There are A LOT of cases of males being in distress, and often, gutless whimps. Luigi, in his OWN GAME, spends THE ENTIRETY OF IT crying out for his brother and looking for him because he is PETRIFIED! Otacon in the Metal Gear Solid series is caught PISSING HIMSELF IN FEAR! VISUALLY AND LITERALLY CREATING A PUDDLE OF URINE BY HIS FEET!

Where am I going with all this? Well, it's not fair to label the video game industry as sexist. It's just not. It is also not fair to take a tiny content of a game and try and spin it into something that MIGHT POSSIBLY MAYBE IN THE RIGHT PERSPECTIVE BE SOMETHING MILDLY SEXIST.

Yes, there are games that ACTUALLY ARE SEXIST and actually ARE VULGAR!. But judge THEM on their OWN MERIT! Don't start looking at all games through feminist glasses just because some game somewhere just happened to be a walking bust with a bum. Most men dislike the things that you find unfair to women just as much as you do.

Many men don't like the fact that female characters seem to get bikini armour when their male counterpart doesn't. Many men don't like it when their games seem to be ruined by a squealing, helpless, crying girl that also just so happens to have the hots for the protagonist. Just because a woman has a pretty face and a good figure, and just because a man is super handsome and buff, does NOT make the game sexist! Don't be so close minded! 

Thanks for reading, I appreciate any feedback. And please, don't take any offense to anything I've written. Nothing I've said is an attack on anyone. For all I know, you are awesome! :)

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g1 DISCUSSIONS

darkhyrulelord

February 22, 2013 - 6:47pm

I will admit that some games out there are sexist, but some people take it a bit too far.

JxL

February 15, 2013 - 10:31am

Agreed, but games are sexist and at its core that is hard to argue. Recently I was watching a Super Mario cartoon with a 5 year old. Mario, Luigi, Toad and Peach were running into an area to fight Bowser. The 5 year old exclaimed, "Too bad they took the Princess huh? She's just gonna get kidnapped, girls can't do anything." Pretty cut and dry. I don't know, I just think that blaming games is ridiculous, this is something that has been engrained in our psyche for thousands of years, and pointing fingers at video games is just silly.

JxL

February 12, 2013 - 9:09am

I like my games sexist, video games are fantasy escapism and sex sells. What's the big deal? There's nothing wrong with an empowered girl character, but a Lollipop Chainsaw type is much more entertaining. Just imagine if Juliet was a hairy A-cup lesbian femminazi reciting the vagina monologues and after a minute or two of that you would be begging the zombies to eat her brains. Society needs to lighten up and have some fun, and stop worrying about offending people and stupid political correctness all the time.

BlueBlur91

February 14, 2013 - 4:04pm

Well SOME of what you said is kind-of my point. I.e just because a female character looks good doesn't have to make her sexist. She doesn't have to look unattractive to be not-sexist, does she?

TheEnglishman

February 12, 2013 - 6:27am

There are some fair points to the argument that games can be sexist. As you point out, the early promo material for Tomb Raider didn't do it any favours and Lara Croft doesn't really look like a typical female archaeologist does she? Then again the argument can be turned by the fact that she's a cool and intelligent protagonist who doesn't rely on anyone. In short, one of the stronger video game characters.

The same can be said of Samus (apparently not in Other M). It's hard to support the Zero Suit though. Yeah I can understand the 'something for under her armour' idea but look at it. It's the most figure hugging piece of clothing ever! It even has heels! They could have had something different.

There are a few games that are more blatant with sexism though. Virtue's Last Reward (a generally excellent 3DS game) has a few pieces that are fairly weak attempts at humour. At one point the main character hints about how good it would be to have a threesome with the two girls who are with him. He's known them for around 2-3 hours in the game. Still, any game with this as promotional material isn't gonna be the most feminist (borderline NSFW) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORNlqA-U-x4

Perhaps we'd get a better view with more women in leading roles in the industry.

Kuuenbu

February 12, 2013 - 3:17pm

Given that a very bulky piece of powered armor with everything besides the space kitchen sink inside it, it kinda makes sense for its undergarment to be as skintight as possible to support the sheer overwhelming load.

As for the heels, well, those are just fancy Space Jump boots, with the Space Jump tech in the heel. No, I don't have a source for this information, I'm just forward thinking like that. :D

GaryCXJk

February 12, 2013 - 4:08pm

I agree. I'd rather go around naked in such a suit than to have to wear jeans and sweaters and shit, and I'm a man even. It's not only crampy, it's also highly not ventilated.

Also, I heard feeling steel on skin can be arousing.

Kuuenbu

February 12, 2013 - 4:29am

It's kind of funny how this discussion is happening on ScrewAttack, whose sole content regarding women in video games is "Top 10 Boobies" and "Top 10 Sexiest Outfits". I think if we want to do something about sexism in the video game industry, we should start with Stuttering Craig and co. Maybe a "Top 20 Women in Video Games AS FUCKING PEOPLE" countdown. Like that'll ever happen...

drunkenelfmage

February 12, 2013 - 12:57am

Honestly I had to create an account just so I could point out the flaws of your reasoning or at least why they don't hold as much water as you think. Please note that even though I believe that some video games have sexist elements, that doesn't mean they lose all value. It just means that the games we love have some flaws we didn't notice before.

1. Lara Croft, completely agree. Although her outfit makes no sense (honestly what video game outfit does), she is a positive female role model.

2. Zero Suit Samus: Your reasoning makes some sense, after all, Samus does have to be wearing SOMETHING under that armor. The problem come from the fact there is an entire gameplay mechanic revolving around stripping her out of that armor and into a revealing skin tight body suit.. Now you could argue that this was because the designers wanted to have a speedier version of Samus for the game, but this could have been done by switching her to a different type of armor (I'm thinking the suit from Metroid fusion) BUT instead the designers specifically chose to strip her down to her skivvies.

By the way, that pose Zero Suit Samus has in that picture? Thats specifically done so that the viewer can look at both her ass and breast. Its one degree off from showing both her breasts and ass, a pose that is physically impossible.

3. MEN: a common argument I see in various forums. Most guys should feel intimidated or inferior to the ruggishly handsome Nathan Drake or the incredibly ripped Kratos. But we don't. You know why? The role of these men in video games are different because we play as them and thus BECOME them. They are vessels for power fantasy, symbols of strength that we as can pretend to be as we play the game for an hour or two.

By the way, the gist of YOUR argument is that you once looked at these men, were intimidated by there ridiculous good looks and unrealistic muscle mass, but muscled past it. But I doubt that is how it went down. I doubt for even on second you questioned it and just enjoyed the game.

Mario isn't a slave to Peach's needs, she gets freaking kidnapped. The way you say it makes it sound like Peach is a over needy bitch for wanting to be rescued by the only capable man in all of the Mushroom Kingdom. Plus Mario is a product of the original video game wave. There are no big publishers making video games about over weight characters without their weight being a punchline.

Otacon isn't a playable character, he was a side kick that made Solid Snake look more badass by being a pussy in comparison, thus empowering the male fantasy. The closest we got to being able to play Otacon was the Original Raiden, and we all know how that went with American gamers.

Please remember that even though a game has sexist elements, THAT DOES NOT RUIN THE GAME. METROID IS STILL AWESOME, MARIO IS STILL A BLAST TO PLAY, UNCHARTED IS well I think its overated BUT MY POINT STILL STANDS. These arguments only seek to find out the flaws so that we may improve upon them in the future. The video game industry makes them, not out of some hidden agenda to put women in there place, but because they in turn are influenced by a male dominated culture, and they do this purely out of ignorance.

PS That statement about makeup? That right there is the only part of the rant I would consider sexist. Not all women wear make up, not all women put in hair extensions, and not all women do those things to deceive men with their looks. Sometimes people just want to look good, or they are told constantly that they have to do those things to function in society. I don't think you are a sexist person though. You're just passionate when it comes to defending video games.

BlueBlur91

February 14, 2013 - 3:56pm

I appreciate you giving your feedback, even better as I do love to start a discussion.

Now about what you've said. That mechanic in the Metroid Games to trigger a speedy/stealth gameplay by taking off her armour, you are absolutely right. They COULD have had her simply morph into another piece of thinner-plated armour, rather than simply taking it off. However, that's not the way it went. They figured they'd have her get into an outfit that makes sense stealth wise. The heels? No, they're ridiculous, in no way am I going to defend that. I WILL say though that I personally find the skin-suit makes sense. The Metal Gear Solid series (mind you any realistic secret agent that needs to keep quiet) will tell you that a stealth agent wearing a skin suit does, in fact, make sense. And that pose, yes. You're totally right. But I did make the point that it isn't always about the way the creators portray the characters. It's who the characters are.

I disagree. I never put myself in the shoes of the main character, as if the person I'm playing is myself. I portray/think/go through games like a book more than a personal experience. I.e when I'm made to play Nathan Drake, I am in fact not Nathan Drake. I am playing as Nathan Drake. And let's say that people playing the protagonists do, in fact, feel they become them, and thus strengthen their confidence, why do people still feel Lara Croft and other strong female protagonists are sexist? Surely if it works one way, it should do the other.

And I'm afraid you were quite wrong about me not even thinking, for once, about what my protagonist looks and acts like. Like I've said, my perspective in any game I play, is purely third-person perspective, unless the game doesn't offer it (I.e games where you are, in essence, playing yourself ... say, Slenderman etc.)

And I don't mean to say at all that Mario is "Simply a slave to Peach's needs". I'm afraid you missed the point; that being that you COULD, from SOME PERSPECTIVE describe it like that, like many people do with women in video games. Nono, Super Mario is in fact the hero. He goes and saves the princess on his own initiative. I.e I quoted something alot of people say about Peach, something that isn't fully true, and I simply did the same to Mario people do with Peach.

My arguments are ABOUT the flaws people point out. I'm not at all just trying to stirr an argument or try and convert people's opinions in a small post. I'm simply saying that;

Game aren't real. Any content you find in a game may or may not change and shift things that are and exsist in reality. When they make a kid, they will most likely make it really childish. When they make men, they will most likely make them extremely masculine. And when they make women, they will most likely make them extremely elegant. That is it.

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