The Devil May Cry, but fans will whine
The DMC petition is painting the gaming community as insecure, picky and unable to deal with change. Stuff like this needs to stop or our community and our medium will never be taken seriously by anyone else.
Internet, you and I need to have a little talk about being fans.
It is in our nature as humans to sort of latch on to and become defensive of the things we like. It's good to like things, it helps us connect with other people who share our interests. The collective term for people in such a group is a "fandom". Generally I would be all for this sort of thing, and most of the time it leads to good things. Heck, if I wasn't part of the video game community I wouldn't be on this website writing this. But I've noticed lately that there a number of awful subsections in fandoms popping up that lead to some embarrassing situations for the rest of us.
I feel like I should start with talking about the DmC controversy and that stupid-ass petition to the White House to have the newest DMC pulled from shelves. When I first heard of this petition I just sort of laughed it off, and reading it made me laugh even louder. When the laughter died down however, I started to think to myself what implications this could have. Granted, this petition only received 66 signatures before it was removed from the website. Despite that though, it could still have had a large impact on the image of the gaming community. Image if you will, if this petition had gotten more signatures and would not have been pulled from the website. What image would that cast on the gaming community?
DmC is selling extremely well right now, plus It's getting great reviews. And what is the thing that gets the most attention? The fact that they changed Dante. The outcry to the new Dante was massive, with fans promising to boycott the game if Dante isn't changed. And then when the game is released, they write the petition. You know what it makes us look like? It makes us look childish.
There are those among our community who really push for gaming as an art form. People like the Extra Credits team and Jim Sterling are constantly working toward a better understanding of games so as to elevate the medium they love to a higher level. And then the people who wrote that petition make all that work pointless. Games have finally gotten to the point where we can make games like Spec Ops: The Line without fear of persecution. People are finally starting to realize that games aren't just a kid's plaything anymore. We can finally make bold and critical statements about modern events. Do you realize how much we have had to do to get this far? And this petition essentially invalidates all of that work because we're losing our shit because someone changed something.
Let's take a look at this petition shall we? I've quoted the full text right under here:
Let's get this out of the way now, if only for my own sanity: the grammar sucks. You call him "Mr.Obama" like you personally know him or something. There shouldn't be an apostrophe in "months", "gamers" "originals" or "its".
On a more serious note, this petition contains some highly questionable text. First there is the notion that "A majority of gamers are aggravated that this game has changed so much from it’s past predecessors". Judging by the fact that not only is the game selling incredibly well, but also that your petition only got 66 signatures, I think it's safe to say that this is not true. Secondly, and most importantly, there is the claim that this game violates your rights as a consumer. Now, you're sending this to the President of the United States, and in the United States they have this document called the Constitution. Maybe you've heard of it, it's quite important. In fact, the first amendment gives anyone the right to freedom of expression. Video games are protected under this amendment, meaning that the industry can produce a game with whatever message they want. Your right as a consumer does not allow you to demand something be removed from shelves if you don't like it. It is your right to not buy it.
In conclusion, it makes me sad that I even had to write this. ScrewAttack has a great community with a lot of smart people that probably already know this. It's sad that things like this still happen. We need to be more careful with what we start yelling about. We saw that yelling worked for Mass Effect 3, but yelling at everything makes us look bad.
Why are you randomly bringing politics into this? How is that relevant?
"The DMC petition is painting the gaming community as insecure, picky and unable to deal with change."
Okay, there are those games. But generally, parent companies should retain firm control over their franchises and know what they are supposed to be.
In this case, Capcom and Ninja Theory didn't care and blatently flicked off the DMC fanbase. What I meant to say is that DmC builds a case where development of Japanese games shouldn't be outsourced to western developers.
No, but they have made death threats and bomb threats before. I'm going based off what I've seen on forums and stuff, do they do it. No. But Honestly, I think we can all agree sonic fans are a bit... nuts.
That petition does...give me a bad vibe about it. First off, I can't believe that people are taking that petition seriously...and also some proofreading may have helped.
Also, this idea that this game is violating our rights is kinda silly in the first place.
Showing that we aren't inactive ANYMORE doesn't fix what happened when we were. Like I said, the damage is done, and can't be repaired-- freedom notwithstanding. And now that all these jackasses have come to represent us as a whole, we can't just make them go away. Those damn fools that ruined gaming are now a permanent part of our culture.
So, I reiterate:
The gaming community is represented unfairly by dumbasses, and outsiders think we're a joke. There is no "This WILL make us look childish and stupid" as this article suggests, because we already reached that point years ago. Getting mad at some whiny fanboys over a petition won't change that.
Now, you might be thinking "Wow, this guy sure is a pessimist! " However, you should know that I've been pulling for gamers for years. I've tried to show everyone I know who isn't a gamer (and a great many that I don't ) that we are not like that. That the people you hear about-- the assholes, the trolls, the whiny, entitled fanboys-- are not who we are. I do my part to help make things better, but it feels like I'm the only one. I'm just so sick of feeling that way.
First off, the Death Star petition was HILLARIOUS. I loved it, and i loved the response.
secondly, the bill you linked to has already been well known. Frankly, the fact that you think it means democrats hate gamers is astonishing. All it proves is that congress is completely ignorant about video games and the facts associated with games.
3rd, how has the President violated the 1st Ammendment? not to mention the 10th, which I find it rather hillarious that you accuse him of violating it, when in fact all it says is that the government is limited to the powers outlined in the constitution.
I'm not even going to bother trying to go into the whole gun control debate because frankly, i'm sick and tired of hearing how everyone needs an military grade weapon to protect themselves from the occasional burglar. Countries like Japan who have banned ownership of a firearm, actually have LOWER crime rates than we do here in the US.
Also, if you think that gamers today are as you put it so nicely... "stubborn, masculine-happy fools that root for violent games that are slowly killing the video game industry"....I have to ask where on earth do you get your ideas from? Because last time I checked, 47% of Gamers are Women, and 18% are teenage boys. Oh! lets not forget that the average gamer is 35 years old and has been playing for 12 years.
I will freely admit though that this DmC petition was clearly the dumbest of all things i've seen on the internet (you being a close second though).
Additionally, your ignorance as to how the U.S. government works is so obvious by how you talk that it's almost painful to look at. First of all, the PRESIDENT does NOT make the laws. THAT is the job of CONGRESS. The two houses of Congress must vote to pass ANY bill. If they vote to pass it, it gets sent to the President. He has 2 choices, sign it, or veto it. If he vetoes it, it goes back to Congress and they can OVERRIDE his Veto with a 2/3 Majority vote in BOTH houses. If the bill fails to achieve a 2/3 vote in both houses, the bill does NOT pass.
Now, unless you've been living under a rock, you probably have heard that neither of the 2 houses of Congress, nor the President seem to agree on ANYTHING. Meaning our entire governmental system that is built upon COMPROMISE, is deadlocked.
The Republicans in the House of Representatives do not want to raise taxes on anyone for any reason whatsoever (though sadly if we have no taxes on anyone, the Government has no income, and then goes broke AGAIN). So we need our taxes to fund the Government.
Also if you don't like the current president, guess what? He's now in his second term in office, meaning he can't run again. So, we'll have 2 NEW people to vote for in 2016. Until then, please do keep politics out of everyday conversations....after all, it's not a social taboo for nothing....
I know everyone else has said this but, it's true, it's just a reboot and this petition is stupid. I'm part of the Resident Evil and Silent Hill fandoms, and while yes the new games are kind of bastardizations of the originals (specifically Silent Hill) I still keep an open mind and try to have fun with the new ones anyway. I don't see why those (and I mean the ones who are REALLY upset) don't just keep said "open mind?" It's hard, I know, but it does do some good to everyone AND specifically one's own self. It's a practice that allows for more fun gaming experiences. Hell, even if you do and don't like it, I'm sure it'll make you appreciate the predecessors even more and be a good conversation piece.
Take your extremist right wing bullshit off our gaming site.
Also, #3 will actually help the reputation of the games industry as it will stop little kids getting violent games so that Fox News & all those kind of people will have no reason to complain.
Thanks for bringing up controversial government politics in a news article about video games... This post was about a video game, not about liberal/conservative politics.
This has to be the most retarded thing ever...
I see where you're coming from with this. It is true that the public perception of gamers is still fairly negative. I do disagree with the notion that it's too late to do damage control on our image. In my opinion, this is the perfect time, because video games have never had more freedom than they do now. Sure they come under fire sometimes for supposedly being involved in some kind of tragedy, but things like comic books and television were no different when they were new. Furthermore, I believe reacting to this petition is showing that we aren't inactive anymore. Showing people that we disagree with petitions like this shows that the vocal minority does not represent us as a community.
Ok about #2. Yeah because the economy is that easy to fix -_-. Everything else..... yeah I have to agree.
1. The Obama admin is a joke as is
2. You people re-elected a person that filed to fixed the economy and allowed the Dem-laden Senate to sneak in loads of pork in bills
3. If this proves the Dems hate us gamers idk what will: http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/287/text
as for this matter, I'm no Devil May Cry fan but this is much worse than that stupid Death Star petition
I mean we're in a sea of red ink and all that the admin YOU people re-elected thinks would help is tax the 1% which would come back and bite us in the butt in a form of us paying for it
You fail to realize that this admin is officially worse than Jimmy Carter's was due to the admin cares about the following
- The Unions not Middle Class (The Unions killed Hostess as they asked for a labor wage raise that's impossible in this economy that the Unions are mostly responsible for along with sending jobs overseas)
- more Regulation instead on letting us think for ourselves
- forcing people to go green by rising gas prices and taxes
I can go on about how bad this is compared to Carter's especially with him using our constitution as his toilet paper via violating the 1st, 2nd and 10th amendment
The idea of letting a radically leftist outfit ban DmC because of how it looks is all kinds of wrong
Gamers as they are today are stubborn, masculine-happy fools what root for violent games that are slowly killing the video game industry (look back at E3 2012 for proof)
"...being art should be considered second priority." I disagree with this statement. Why aren't games capable of the same artistic potentials as film, theatre, and literature? And other art forms have entertainment aspects as well.
A game does not retroactively become worse just because another good game is out there. If I really enjoy the reboot personally, then why will the original game existing suddenly change that?
The guns are useless? That's funny because I use them a lot in the combat.
This is a case of someone not accepting the "take it or leave it" concept and decides to go the whole 9 yards just to antagonize the game. The only thing I hated about the game was that raking up combos are a whole lot easier than the previous DMC games, where SSS weren't something the games would dole out for free. But other than that, I don't see the absolute need to have the games removed off the shelves.
"The DMC petition is painting the gaming community as insecure, picky and unable to deal with change. Stuff like this needs to stop or our community and our medium will never be taken seriously by anyone else."
Let me stop you right there, if I may.
I really don't think this... petition matters in the slightest in terms of our image. Y'see, I've been under the impression that gaming as a whole is already not taken seriously, and it isn't hard to see exactly why that is.
For example, instead of running off the immature assholes-- the ones that have infested and completely ruined the gaming culture to the point where I sometimes feel a little ashamed of being identified as a gamer-- we let them represent us.
Because of our inaction, people lump us in with all manner of misogynist, racist, homophobic, Mountain Dew-swilling jackasses, and mouthy 12-13 year old kids who swear like their parents are out for the weekend. Basically, the very scum of the earth. And, because stupidity loves company, people like that form entire communities dedicated to keeping all the "f4g0ts" out (League of Legends leaps readily to mind.).
On top of that, you have fanboys, stop-having-fun-guys, and retro hipsters-- all of which number far too many for their own good, and are always an ordeal to converse with. Oh, and they also make the rest of us look bad, of course.
In my decidedly non-humble opinion, it seems waaaaay too late to do any sort of damage control on our image, becasue the damage done is so extensive, and so widespread that no amount of work can repair it. So, getting mad about some stupid little petition made by whiny fanboys that got all of 66 signatures before being removed seems entirely pointless.
Now, as for the actual petition itself; it is no different than the Left 4 Dead petition, or the reaction to ME3's ending. And, just like those two incidents, it was completely retarded, and, ultimately, didn't accomplish a damn thing. God, I hate being right!
It's official: DMC fans are allergic to vaginas.