George Lucas: The Love/Hate Relationship
Moving right along into the second edition of Monthly Mania, its time to talk about one of the most controversial figures in Hollywood... Boy won't this be a juicy subject!!!
Note to readers: What's up guys? Before you read this please keep in mind I didn't even bother mentioning Indiana Jones: Kingdom of the Crysatl Skull. That's a whole new blog length of information! So considering that we are talking about Star Wars this month, I will leave that other beloved franchise alone. For now...
George Lucas, one of Hollywood’s biggest men, wrangling over an astronomical 3.2 billion dollars in total net worth. The creator of Star Wars, undoubtedly the most financially successful film franchise of all time grossing over 4.45 billion dollars in box-office revenue and generating over thirty billion dollars in merchandising while further generating one billion dollars annually. Lucas is also the chairman, founder, and chief executive of Lucasfilm and heads ILM, which serves as the movie industry's main provider of special effects in live action films.
Being on such an incredibly high pedestal in the movie industry, it’s hard to imagine that Lucas was once a punk filmmaker that defied the corporate power of Hollywood only to become the source of it. It’s also difficult to remember that everybody actually loved this guy at one point. We saw him as one of us. An underdog hero who fought for his passion. A fellow nerd, and a good friend.That is, until he turned to the Darkside of the Force...
First, he tarnished the legacy of the original and flawless Star Wars by filling it with unconvincing and unnecessary special effects while in turn, erased hundreds of hours in hard work that passionate artists had labored in. And worst of all, he kept Han from shooting first...
While nerds everywhere shared a collective WTF?! moment, we still didn’t hate man that had bestowed upon us great and timeless series of films. But unfortunately, things only got worse.
Lucas’s path to the Darkside of was considered complete when he released what is now known as the dreaded prequel trilogy... An evil and broken shadow of what Star Wars once was and is held responsible for “ruining childhoods” across the globe. To this day, the prequel trilogy is considered an insult to geekdom and acts as universal rallying cry for nerd rage everywhere.
So what happened? How could this great captain of industry seemingly fall to the corruption of a robber baron? Did he just forget who he was? Did he forget who we are? Did he forget what Star Wars was?
While we continue asking ourselves questions that may never see an answer, there is one question that we inevitably run into whenever we even think about Star Wars. Do we love or hate George Lucas?
This is not only a question that I pose to you, but one that I posed to several g1s that have obviously proven themselves to be dedicated fans and educated nerds on the subject matter. They pose good arguments and interesting points of view. Do you agree with them? Let’s find out...
Gotta respect artistry. We may not like it, but being an artist myself, I can understand his resilience to fan outcry.
I change some of my blogs all the time. But do people give two shits about that? No.
And for George Lucas to be told that he can’t change his material because it’s Star Wars would easily sound disheartening to a lot of people if they found themselves in the same situation. So I can understand how much of a pain it must be to feel like the rights to your own creation have been taken from you.
So... Does George Lucas have a right to his creations? Yes. Do I have to agree with them? No.
I just know me and many others could respect him a lot more if he would just say “Okay, I am glad you love these original films, but I have a few problems with them. These new editions more closely resemble my initial vision and you can watch them if you want. Just remember that both the original films and the new editions will always be available if you want them.”
Why can’t he just release his new, special, Blu-Ray, and 3-D editions along with the original and unedited films? They would have no problem selling. So what’s the freaking hold-up?
Concise reply but a lot to go off of here. So give me a second to get on my soap box here...*step* *step* *step* *pulls out paper*
I think almost everyone can agree that 3-D is the latest ploy made by a desperate Hollywood to get people to pay more cash than they really have to.
There has not been a single film where I have been so absolutely blown away by 3-D to the point it has caused me to go see another 3-D movie. I just feel like I am scammed each time I pay the extra five dollars for admission. The same five dollars I would use to buy a movie theater’s similarly and rediculously expensive drinks and snacks...
And to see that Star Wars fell to that stupid trend only provides further evidence that the franchise is just being milked beyond its reasonable limits. Not to mention the fact that we have to sit through the prequel trilogy in 3-D for two more years, AGAIN, until we even arrive at the GOOD movies.Ugghh...
If anything, twenty years from now, people are going to look back at the late 2000’s and early 2010’s and laugh at how everything was “3-D.” It’s going to be a comedic and embarrassing definition of our decade and I am going to be happy to realize that the movement died as soon as it came to life.
So... THANKS Avatar!!! And yes that was fucking sarcasm if you didn’t pick the hint there. And yes I hate 3-D...
True dat! Hell, I think even hundred years from now we will still be talking about it.
It’s no exaggeration to say that Star War’s impact and brilliance is comparable to things like Homer’s Odyssey, Dante’s Inferno, and even John Milton’s Paradise Lost. It’s only a matter of time until movies take similar positions as story-telling masterpieces.
I think video-games have a ways to go until they reach the same level of reverence and respect as an art, but movies will inevitably reach that mantle if they have not already done so.
True, true. The only problem is that Lucas isn’t treated like an idiot. Most people say his business decisions are the greatest examples of his “genius.”
But like many other powerful men, he is regarded as an “evil genius” more than he is a benevolent one.
As far as money swindling personalities go, even directors such as the widely celebrated James Cameron are just as responsible for shamelessly sucking money out of our wallets as Lucas is.
Only difference is that Cameron makes it more of a mission to create a manipulatively “good movie” than he does to make a legitimate-ly “genuine movie.” I don’t think Titanic or Avatar were necessarily bad movies, just highly overrated products that were expand an already vast ego.
At least Lucas he has the balls to actually do whatever he feels is right for a film no matter how ill-conceived and unquestioned it is. I just feel like Cameron does whatever he feels like will make him more money, at least nowadays. Agghhh... A man who went from creating movies about time-traveling robot assassins and aliens that burst out of people’s stomachs has been reduced to making manipulative movies about historical events with romance novel plots inserted into them and stories about giant blue fairies on a magical planet...
I know it sounds like a really hate Cameron, but keep in mind he is just one among a list of possible candidates I could have used to illustrate this point. I was thinking about referring to Bill Gates. But who hasn’t done that? Not to mention he has nothing to do with movies.
Yes, there are cruel businessmen out there that wrongfully try to empty our wallets. And yes, Lucas takes more heat from it because he made Star Wars.
Hate is a strong word. And its word that I have reserved only for 3-D, taxes, Hitler, tail-gaters, people who text while they're driving, and my mothe... Wow, I am full of hate. I guess I didn’t litsen to Yoda very well...
Joking aside, I do think that’s a good point. Even though he makes me mad because he has never released the original Star Wars films since he made the special editions (Which could easily reduce the anger level of Star Wars fans in half along with easily making him millions of dollars in the process...), I can’t say I hate the same man that actually brought us Star Wars.
Without him, what would we really love in life without Star Wars? It seems to me that people are more concerned that they would have nothing to hate in life without George Lucas.
Listen to Master Yoda you must. Hate is just bad.
Boy did things get out of hand... Sixty years ago I don’t think anybody could have imagined that you could possibly use a film to sell all every single piece of merchandise that existed on the market.
But this is both a good thing and a bad thing. I’ll be the first to tell you Lucas didn’t ruin my life because of the prequels. He ruined my life by somehow tainting his products with some drug-like substance that makes me want to buy anything and everything that has Star Wars stamped on the front of it.
My addiction has cost me six marriages, my entire life savings, and all the room in my house. They seriously need a rehab center of Star Wars afflicted addicts...
Just kidding there, but seriously guys. When you have a franchise like that, George Lucas or not, expect the intentions of the people who make these highly demanded products to go down a little bit in good content. Kindness can only be stretched so far until business interests start coming in. And like Ben said, making money is not a bad thing. George Lucas might deserve it just for creating Star Wars back in 1977.
However, I still think Lucas was originally responsible for the majority of Star War’s genius. In the beginning...
American Grafitti and THX 1138 act as proof to that. I think his own success with Star Wars is what ultimately led to the loss of his former mastery. After Return of the Jedi, he didn’t really need to be creative anymore. He knew if he stamped Star Wars on the front of anything, it would sell.
It’s just overall laziness I think. If he didn’t have the money or the power he has now, I think he would be a completely different person.
So there's their respones. You want to know about mine?
Well, considering this is another thing that deals with Star Wars, I have determined it is an impossible task to sum up an answer in a short sentence.
So bear with me, and let me cover this as best as I can.
No matter what he does, no matter what he will do, I will come out and say that still I love George Lucas. That being said however, please keep in mind that is GEORGE LUCAS.
You know, the young pioneering filmmaker who won several academy awards for American Graffitti and was responsible for creating the timeless Star Wars Trilogy, and in doing so, revolutionized filmmaking? Yeah that guy.
Not the man that goes by the same name nowadays and treats his own fans with neglect and completely disregards anyone who even thinks about questionings his reasoning.
Not to mention the fact that this other “George Lucas” just doesn’t seem to live under the same restraints that made the real George Lucas such a creative and inspiring artist. And to add to the shit-pile, for whatever reason, nobody seems to have the will to say no to this other George Lucas. And despite making lesser quality work, he still seems to be constantly greeted with huge sums of money he does not even need or deserve.
But, I will give still this other George Lucas credit on a few things. I truly think he believes some of the tampering he does to his predecessor’s work are changes that need to be made. I also believe that this man still views himself as the small guy defying the corporate giants of Hollywood. He is tenacious, determined, and is willing to fight for his work.
However, I think these positive traits are greatly misdirected,do more harm than good to his reputation.
No matter how hard I try to look at it in any other way, the painful, unfortunate, and extreme irony in this whole situation is the fact that Lucas has literally become the ultimate analogy to the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker.
He “Became the very thing he swore to destroy” which in this case, is an oppressive and un-felling film industrialist. He practically became the most powerful man in Hollywood over-night, which was the very last thing he wanted to end up becoming. In this, Lucas is a tragic example of a man that was burned alive by the success of his own work.
Because when I really think about it, could any of us manage to carry the weight of Star Wars without losing a little bit of ourselves in the process? I don’t think I would.
All in all, I don’t hate George Lucas because of the Greedo shot first incident, Jar-Jar Binks, the special additions, the prequel trilogy, or the Ewoks. The one thing that has truly made me lose respect for Lucas is his loss of respect for us, his fans.
Lucas is now the person he never wanted to be and he knows it. He never wanted Star Wars to turn him into who he is now, and I he think he blames Star Wars fans for his fall from grace. With that said, it’s reasonable to assume he has a natural disregard towards Star Wars fans.
Sometimes I can’t blame him. There have been several cases where overly-invested and entitled fans will allow one disappointing product ruin an entire experience for them. They don’t look at the positives and do not consider an artist’s own vision. And because of their own expectations, fans can easily allow themselves to become extremely harsh and extremely unforgiving people. In other words, people can be absolute dick-kicking, ball-breaking, troll-rolling, cock-cutting, back-stabbing, douche bags sometimes. To make matters worse, some people often base their criticisms purely on what others have already said or will just say they hate it without a good explanation as to why. And that does a lot more harm to your cause than good.
So, I guess you can say we fans are partly to blame for allowing ourselves to forget what Star Wars is really all about. All too often, people with myself included, make Star Wars a subject of hate. Spend time in any conversation relating to Star Wars for no more than a minute and I personally guarantee you that somebody is going to make a jab at the prequels or the special editions. It’s just commonplace now.
What about Darth Vader before he was space Jesus? What about all the toy-lightsaber fights you had with your friends when you were a kid? What about the times you spent months to years trying to find that one limited edition Boba Fett action figure? What about all the times you saw the prequel movies twice even though you knew they were bad? What about those moments? What happened to loving Star Wars? Are we equally responsible for forgetting what Star Wars is really about? I think so.
You don’t need a reminder every thirty seconds to tell you that the prequels and the changes made to the originals were bad. I think we are all intelligent enough to know that they were just big mistakes that we all have to live with. In short, I think the more we present ourselves as people who respect the franchise and not hate it, the more people will listen.
So here is my mission. I believe that until George Lucas re-releases the ORIGINAL STAR WARS FILMS (Ones with no special features, no CGI, no 3-D, and with no additional or edited scenes) fans will never accept that the George Lucas we all know and love still lives. That being said, WE MUST show him that his once loving and supportive fans are also still around. And we start by changing the way we look at Star Wars.
Instead of making a point to say how much you wish George Lucas would die and go to hell, say that you wish that the real man that gave us some of the greatest and most touching stories ever made would return to save us from the evil galactic empire his alter-ego has created. Don’t give in to hate. That leads to the Darkside.
To sum up our situation and our cause, take this time to forget that you are reading a blog and try to go back in time when you were happy... Go back to the climax of Return of the Jedi, where Skywalker confronts Vader...
At this very moment, we the fans are playing the role of Luke Skywalker, Lucas playing the role of Darth Vader, and the Emperor representing the manifestation of Lucas’s greed, hate, and lack of empathy. We have beaten Lucas, and now, we are at the Emperor’s knees, feeling the pulse of a thousand watts of Force Lightning being pulsed through us in an endless onslaught of pain as we cry for Lucas’s help.... Will Lucas come to save us? Will he release the ORIGINAL Star Wars films? Will find his true self? Will he die a redeemed man?
It’s ultimately up to him, but it’s up to us to let him know that!!!
As always, I am going to have to close on this emotional high note and give a big thank-you for reading this article!
I am going to keep cranking out some more Star Wars, so don’t worry! And while I am doing that, here are a few things I would like to know.
- Who is the most badass character in the Star Wars Universe?
- Are there any Star Wars games you would like a review on?
- How has Star Wars impacted our culture?
- How has Star Wars made a difference in your life?
I know some of you wanted to participate, so here is your chance! Comment and let me know!!!
Other than that, I think its a wrap. Remember what I said about changing the way we look at Star Wars and try to make a difference!!! And most importantly of all, the Force will be with you... Always...
Thank-you for reading and stay screwy!!!
I agree with that no matter what you think of the prequals (1 average at best, 2 not very good, 3 quilty pleasure) Gorge Lucas did create the entire Star Wars franchise, which brought us unmeasurable amounts of joy and happiness.
Hating peoiple that you're propably never going to meet face-to-face is easy, and we do that too easily, but that doesn't mean that they should be allowed to get away with doing something crappy (HAN SHOT FIRST, dammit, although I also think that most changes he did to the original movies are good additions to them).
Also, George Lucas gets a lot of unnecessary hate. When ever new EU stuff comes out that's considered bad (like the Clone Wars -movie) SW-fans start sharpening their pitchworks and crying that George Lucas is ruining Star Wars, although he has nothing to do with the EU stuff (aside from the Ewoks and "shudders" Holiday Special).
So, do I hate the man: no. Do I think he is the same guy anymore who rebelled against Hollywood and gave us great sci-fi franchise: also no.
And now, for your questions:
2) Star Wars: Republic Commando, Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy and Battlefront I or II
3) Short version: greatly. It's really well known and quoted. Even if you haven't watched the movies you know about them and their characters and hear people comparing other franchises to Star Wars and calling other movies "Star Wars- rip-offs". That's the mark of infuental franchise.
4) It started my love for sci-fi and movies and was the first thing I consider being fan of.
Truth be told, I enjoyed Episode 1 and 3 had some pretty good moments as well. I just take issue with changing things that don't need to be changed (Han shot first!). The prequels didn't really have the same appeal as the originals did; maybe I just haven't looked into the myths behind the themes in the prequels.
You and the others have already been selected for the upcoming ones. So expect to se your self a lot!
And you have already answered those questions, it's just some other people wanted to get involved so I left it as an option for them.
*Claps* A tip-off my sunglasses to you man!
*Ahem* anyways, Yes The prequels have a "mixed" reactions on the Star Wars fanbase,why?
"You Win some and you Lose some"
I am gonna leave it like that,and even though for me the biggest mistake Lucas have ever done are The Clone Wars(Even when I was a child I knew it was bad),you gotta respect the man
And that's all I have to say,why? because I was only alive when the Final prequel was out,and I have decided to keep my distance to anything Star Wars related overall,and yes,you can blame the fanbase for that.
I'm featured twice? Wow, thanks a lot man. and have I already answered those set of questions you have here?
Who made that quote?
And if you looked at the people mentioned here, you would notice I did try to get people who cared more for the prequel trilogy than most of the other "fans."
And keep in mind this is all opinion. And these "other" fans? Where are they? I mean I know they exist but don't say they represent a majority just because they don't talk as much. That makes no sense.
And even though I have to admit Star Wars does have occasional cliches, I think for the most part, they are all the cool ones. Not the stupid ones. And unlike other movies that completely rely on the popularity of one cliche, I think Star Wars is one of the few films that brings them together to make a collaborative tribute to story-telling.
If you don't like Star Wars that's fine. Just don't say I "refuse to mention one half of the story" when all you really want me to say "Star Wars is shit." Which is what you come across as wanting me to mention in my mind.
I like your desire to challenge people's positions sometimes but you have got to realize it rubs people the wrong way Fulchrum. You just seem needlessly offensive most of the time instead of legitimately critical.
People do not have to have the same opinion as you do.
I don't think it makes things horrible. Just expensive... I could understand maybe a two dollar increase, but five is pushing it. The 3DS thing does not bother me as much because I only have to pay for it once.
With the already expensive occasion of movies nowadays, 3-D just strikes me as a cheap way to make things more expensive. So if drinks cost less, if candy, and popcorn cost a little less, maybe I would not be as pissed off about it. But...Yeah.
And once again we have the blogs that refuse to mention the other half of the story.
Lets start this off right - the prequel has fans. Legions of them. A huge number of people who love the prequels every bit as much as you did when you were eight. Do not for a single second act like hatred agains the movies is in any way universal, its just that the group that hates them screams louder.
You also can't claim any kind of objective value to the movies. As popular as RLM are, they are taking subjective stabs at a meaning for the movies (half of which don't work in the slightest with any though) and holding up the movie - meaning that it fails against subjective standards, not objective ones. Yoyu may agree with these subjective standards, meaning that your opinion is similar, not that the opinion has factual weight.
And for people claiming that the Prequels are "stupid", there's a very telling quote I remember from back when the original Star Wars: A New Hope was made - "These movies are intellevtual garbage - a shallow hodgepodge of cliches fit only for the mentally unadvanced. Kids these days should be seeing real movies. Like Tootsie!"
You hate 3D? Well, I can somewhat relate to your opinion. I think it is very gimmicky and overused, so much so that it is used at improper times! BUT, I'd be lying if I said that it makes everything horrible. Just look at the 3DS. The 3D graphics ook very good in my opinion! And some movies looked very nice in 3D (like Despicable Me and Piranha 3D). But again, 3D really needs to be toned down. Enough is enough! As for that last question about "Who is the most badass character in the Star Wars universe?" here is my answer: The Emperor. He just sits there and says cruel things to Luke so he'll let his anger take over him and he'll be one step closer to joining the Dark side. The Emperor doesn't give a flying fuck because he knows he's on top of everybody! (Until *spoilers* Darth Vader throws him down a pit). That, and he has force lightning, the best kind of force!
Nice to see some real reasons why a few g1s feel like they do about Lucas instead of senslessly rambling about how he created the prequels or things like that. I may not agree with some of their opinions, but I can respect them because they went into some actual detail.
The 2600 game. Talk about it.