Marvel vs Capcom Origins. Screw Re-releases.
I bounce right off the handle and speak frankly. Read at your discretion. I might be a little too real for most people.
The message is simple, fuck re-releases. Expect Metal Gear Solid, get which ever title on every console conceivable. Yes even Peace Walker on the PSP. It is 5-AM here in Canada, so obviously I have a lot on my mind and I have a strong urge to say what I think. In this case, type what I think. And what guy rants on a blog with nicely constructed paragraphs and sentences? It would be more common place to get drunk and drunk dial the old ex. I would drunk call an old ex, but I don’t care about a female that much to actually do so or drink for that matter.
I just feel like piping up, like that drunk at the bar that likes to think he knows everything who always crashes a conversation. For me, its fun to play that part. The subject being, Re-releases, fuck em. What prompts me to say this? Capcom. Marvel vs. Capcom Origins. Re-releasing Marvel vs Capcom and Marvel Super Heroes for current gen consoles.
The only good thing to take from this, a younger generation will be introduced to something us old school gamers had in our day. But what dead consoles were they released for? The Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, and the Playstation. And if you kids are lazy and don’t check out Wikipedia. I’ll tell you the PSX ports of these games suck. Sega, now there is no limits. Sega does go on to make the Sixth Gen Consoles a sad one by letting the Dreamcast die so young, which is why I was a PC Gamer through much of that period.
I always feel its best to play these games the way you remember them in their day. Be it the PSX, Saturn, or Dreamcast. And for many of us old school gamer, we get a jolt of awesome hit us when we hear they are getting re-released. Not because we get to buy them again. A few will have those old school consoles and their copy of Marvel Super Heroes and Marvel vs. Capcom. And we kept our copies and our dead consoles through the years. Kinda like a sports fan who stayed faithful to his team through the darkest times and rejoices when they win the Stanley Cup or the Super Bowl or the World Series or whatever trophy European Soccer has. We feel rewarded we kept faithful and perserved for love for the games and consoles.
I know I was like, “FUCK YEAH! I HAVE MY MARVEL VS. CAPCOM COPY FOR THE DREAMCAST!” Not really, just a quiet victory. Just makes me feel like a much more legit gamer. Because, some of us are just playing the games because its the biggest trend. And once it gets old, they will move on. Not me, man. Not me. Gamer for life.
What’s wrong with the Dreamcast or Saturn version of Marvel vs. Capcom? Oh... you don’t own a Dreamcast? You don’t want to get a Dreamcast because it costs money? You don’t care about the games on the Dreamcast or the Saturn? Those consoles suck? The graphics suck? Emulators are better?
Here is what I say to that. Fuck emulators. The Dreamcast and Saturn are the best things from the 90’s. They to me, represent a what a gamer is about. Sure, some posers will have played the NES and Super Nintendo in their day and came back when the Xbox 360 and Call of Duty became popular. But the Sega Genesis, the Neo Geo Aes, the Turbografx-16, the Atari Jaguar, and the Saturn and Dreamcast are a place you go to earn your gamerhood. Yes, even the fucking Phillips CDI. I have one, don’t you?
It is the simple idea, you want to be more of a gamer so you go for the consoles and games that are far out of the public eye and the lesser known. Yes, we were lost and we are looking for something different, exciting, and fun. Video games was something we found exciting, but we wanted more. So it took us to strange places and often times we didn’t like what we found. However, with time, we learned to like them. Without us, a lot of things might have never taken off and the world would be a totally different place. But it was a time when we got what we wanted a lot more often.
A gamer should be well-versed in all the history, games, genres and consoles should he not? You can hate a genre or console or game, but still have an a good understanding of them. Its knowledge with a firm opinion on subjects. You have the internet, there is no excuse anymore! That’s what I am trying to say here.
But good on Capcom for re-releasing these games for the younger generation. But who is gonna buy them? Us old school gamers who remember them, have a steady income, and spend a lot of time on gamer websites. Maybe a few curious kids will be lucky to pick them up and truly appreciate what it was like back then and how it still kicks ass today.
Capcom calls those two games the origins of the Marvel vs series. No it was X-men vs. Street Fighter that started it all. And it just being a merger of the Street Fighter Alpha series, Children of the Atom, and Marvel Super Heroes. But of course, this is all you get because of legal bullshit. But for some of us with those games and Saturn and Dreamcast, we can enjoy the real origins.
Sadly, I don’t own Children of the Atom, or Marvel Super Heroes, or Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter. I will get them sooner rather than later. The point is, I have Marvel vs. Capcom and Marvel vs. Capcom 2 on the Dreamcast and X-men vs. Street Fighter on the Saturn. I understand this was rant-orientated with a lot of conflicting ideas and subjects, but it comes together--somehow. And only a small few will be like, “Hell yeah! Dark Magician! Boy, you said it!”
Haha doesn't everyone? I'd love to get a bunch of arcade cabinets. If only I had that kind of cash lol.
…not every gamer has to be well versed in gaming history and knowledge. I personally strive for that empowerment, but my friends never really care about that sort of stuff and are just as much of gamers as I am. I just end up being a walking encyclopedia and it probably irritates them sometimes lol
Regardless… not everyone is lucky enough to own dead consoles. Not everyone has the funds. Not everyone even knows how to acquire such things. Rereleasing games with new features is great for giving players a chance to play the games they always read about online (most of the time. I'm looking at you TMNT4).
Look at Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike Online Edition. A TON of people play the shit out of that game. Why? Because it sticks to it's core gameplay, adds challenges, offers bonus galleries, saves replays and lets people play online with each other. That game (minus a few missing sound files from Twelve) is the BETTER version of SFIII: 3rd Strike. Whether you have the original Dreamcast version or not, you can't deny the facts.
Not every rerelease is better. The only way to be sure is to judge the individual games for what they are and what they offer. Marvel vs Capcom: Origins is going to be sick. You know why? It'll contain the DEFINITIVE versions of the games. Not consoles ports that came out years ago.
Keep it classy, mang.
How they seem to completely disregard the history of their own franchises and completely dismiss the fans (when it comes to franchises that erupted on PC) that put them in business in the first place. I'm thinking of Call of Duty, Battlefield, and some MMOs to name a few. I make it sound horrible, but it's not THAT bad, it's just not equal.
No, that one sentence doesn't excuse the entire rest of the article.
Man, what whining. I'm sorry, but you came across as a total elitist bitch. It was a painful read. I hope I never become like you about gaming. Just cause we were there first doesn't mean that anyone else shouldn't be allowed to enjoy these games.
I just realized we aren't getting Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter. We're getting Marvel Super Heroes instead why.
Yeah, I just take it a step further. There are those that even take it further than I do.
lets agree to disagree, for one, and let me get this one out of the way you don't get your gamerhood from owning any of the systems you mentioned, you earn it by enjoying and playing video games. Secondly if I wanted to own these games in the form I remember them in I would get the arcade cabinet of the games, because while they where released for the Saturn and Dreamcast, they are still arcade ports, very good ports but still arcade ports. Overall nice article dude ^^
The thing is, you and I are very much alike when it comes to game collecting. I'm a collector. I have nearly every system with the exception of the very super obscure (and I have some of those too), and I have the Japanese versions of most of the major systems as well. I literally own thousands of games. Thousands. All of them are original cartridge/discs. I don't really do emulation, and I don't often download games either. I don't really prefer to play digital games, but instead, typically play original copies on original systems. I'll get MvCO, because I love fighting games, and this collection is not only cheap, but adds some new features as well.
The thing that bothered me about your blog wasn't really your opinion on gaming/collecting, because I'm the same way. I think it's really cool, and I respect that about you. However, you come off as someone who thinks they are better than others based on your original versions of the games. That's simply not the case. I totally respect gamers who would download these games. The fact that they take the time and money to download and play these old fighters that we enjoyed for years, is actually pretty cool. If a gamer has the will to try out other things, rather than that same ol' frat boy who only buys the new Call of Duty or Madden every year, he has earned my respect. Not everyone has the disposable income to be a collector, so it's okay if a person just has one or two systems and a handful of games.
P.S. For MSHvSF, I'm sure you probably already know this, but I suggest getting the Japanese Saturn version. Not only does it have the tag mechanics intact, but also has a Japanese exclusive character. The U.S. PS version just doesn't compare.
P.P.S. I don't really understand why you chose to show off the CD-i in that photo. There was never a Marvel or Capcom game for it, it's not really that rare of a system to show off, and it's pretty horrendous. I mean, I enjoy a good Hotel Mario, and the Zelda games are an interesting curiosity, but that's about as far as it goes. I've got 41 games for the system, and it's probably the least played system I own. Seriously, what were you going for here? You've got it laid out with your Cast, and Japanese Saturn, clearly on purpose, but I just don't see the point.
Maybe you don't want re-releases, but I certainly don't mind them being made.
I never got to play Sonic Triple Trouble and Kirby's Pinball Land when they first came out, and I don't feel like hunting down two separate consoles just to play two games. Both of them have been released online for the Nintendo 3DS lately, with fantastic porting and some new additional features. And personally, I'm glad they were both re-released.
I am very sorry to hear that. That is extremely sad. Its okay, you could get the re-releases, I'll allow it.
Sorry to hear about the loss of your N64. I can't argue with that logic. But damnit! Can't a man just be frank about something?
i remember my brother-in-law giving me his old Dreamcast about 5 years ago. i was excite because i knew i could get both Marvel vs. Capcom 1 and 2 for it as well as the Sonic Adventure games (i wanted to try out the originals instead of the Gamecube ports, even though i had a Gamecube). but to my great sadness and anger, my father threw it out to the garbage because he thought i never played it >:(. how could i if i hadn't even gotten games for it yet?!?!?!?!?! so yes, sadly i was cheated out of experiencing a Dreamcast
Didn't I say, "The only good thing to take from this, a younger generation will be introduced to something us old school gamers had in our day."?
Yeah, the Neo-Geo is extremely expensive. Cheaper just to get the Arcade Cabinet...Yes, the arcade cabinet... I want one.
Yeah. This is just my excuse to have my say on this whole business.
This is my opinion. Didn't i say, "The only good thing to take from this, a younger generation will be introduced to something us old school gamers had in our day."?
Didn't i say, "The only good thing to take from this, a younger generation will be introduced to something us old school gamers had in our day."?
sorry but i rather spend alot less money on re release then trying to find the console and the game. that cost alot more, espeacilly if you never grew up or really played thos games before. So what about us, the gamers who didn't grow up with these games but still want to try them out?
I love playing my Mega Drive games on MegaDrive rather than on PSN or Steam, but when I see a bunch of games put on there for a fiver, I'm going to get them, especially if I didn't own them as a kid in the early 90s. It also gives people younger than me a chance to play these classics for a low price without convincing them to buy a console on eBay and games to support it first.
By your logic, if someone missed a movie when it was in cinemas, they shouldn't be able to see it on home video because they missed out on it how it was meant to be seen. Or a TV show that someone watches through on Netflix is less valid than watching one episode a week because it is a more genuine experience.
Just because it comes out on an earlier system first doesn't mean it can never be reintroduced to a new audience. And there is usually something to offer added to the rerelease, such as upscaled graphics, achievements and trophies, and most important for games like MvC, online play, allowing for you to take your game challenge to a much wider player base, while before you would only play a handful of people in your living room.
Honestly I think this blog is just an excuse to belittle people who didn't or couldn't collect multiple systems in one generation and somehow claim to be a superior gamer just because you got them when they were new and less well known. The Internet sometimes calls the attitude "hipster", I call it "elitists and snobbish"
-a 22 year old gamer who also eBays older games and systems to add to the ones from his childhood, but will still buy a rerelease if it is worth it.