Musings on Naruto: Who Tobi really is Part 2: Why Tobi can't be who he is
Warning: HEAVY HEAVY spoiles. I would advise not reading past here if you're not past were the manga is released in the U.S. We discuss the recent Tobi reveal, but you should really just read it instead of finding everything out here.
So just in case anyone skipped the Tl:DR, if you haven't read up through chapter 599 (or atleast 598) i would highly suggest going and reading it. You can catch up on anything you missed here: www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/
Now if anyone here has read my stuff before, you would know i do in depths ananlysis of stuff. What you probably don't know though, is contrary to what happens with most people, i do my best work when im actually angry at something. And boy am i angry at something right now. I would like to state a disclaimer that this topic is not written by rage, but rather is written in a highly angry, yet logical manner. If you have any disagreements with anything i say here, please let me know in the comments and i'll be happy to address your complaints. And since i might get this, i included the picture of Tobi's face in the thumbnail because i as reasonably certain that you couldn't tell who it was just from the picture (honestly if they hadn't said the name, there was about 4 Uchiha in the series who he looks near identical to, and he also has a striking resemblance to Gaara's dad (seriously, go look up a picture in the manga and put the 2 side by side. Their faces are virtually identical)
Ok, i think that's enough buffering so that people can see the spoiler warning without the spoilers. So if anyone else here has read the latest chapter of Naruto, you would know that after literally years of waiting, the most popular theory as to who Tobi was has been proved correct. Yes, Tobi is indeed Obito. My first reaction was to stand up and yell "Are you kidding me!?" (which illicited a odd look from my roommate). Don't get me wrong, i have nothing against Obito, it's just that there are several people who are far more likely to actually be Tobi than Obito, and furthermore, after some of the relatively more recent revelas in the series, it was virtually confirmed that Tobi COULDN'T be Obito, and that the author making Tobi's identity be Obito was a blatent attempt to appeal to his remaining fans (or maybe a secret worry that he would lose the majority of his fan base if Tobi wasn't Obito). But that's only speculation, here we're dealing with facts, so i present: REASONS THAT TOBI CANNOT BE OBITO (said in epic Egoraptor voice. you know the one.)
Reason 1: The motive and the Psyche of Tobi!
Or rather in Obito's case, a distinct lack thereove. If you go back and read the original Kakashi flashback, Obito was nothing like Tobi. He had none of the same beliefs, and had absoloutly no motive to do what he is doing now. Obito was a peacful happy kid (more or less) and Tobi is a vengful, brooding, and slightly sarcastic man. The difference personality wise is night and day. And motive? Tobi's motive changes everytime he's questioned about why, and you start to half believe he's just doing it for the funof it. The biggest stretch that i could think of for Obito having a motive for all this is that he was horrified by the war and wants to make sure that it never happens again. While the motive is deffinitly the most reasonable transition to make, the Psyche change would be virtually impossible. If there was to be one, it would be when that rock fell on him, but rather he seems almost cheerful as he's (supposedly) crushed to death. No evidence of what he'll become. If you notice the neutral face of the original Obito was one of a slightly cheeful kid. The neutral face of Tobi (as shown in thumbnail) was that of "I would very much like to kill the entire world". Addmitidly, still the most plausable aspect, so an argument could be made for this transition.
2: The Power level is over 9000!!!!!!!!
As Obito, he was easily the weakist kid on the block. As Tobi, he can beat the whole block without breaking a sweat. He goes from someone who doesn't have much talent or potential to becoming one of (if not the) most powerful ninja in the world. But he does this in about 2 years. Not even getting into the continuity issue yet, how does someone like him get good enough to easily take on the Fourth Hokage in just a matter of 2 years? And not only that, but the ammount of knowledge he would have had to gain in 2 years is astounding given all he knows about the tailed beasts. What he does is virtually impossible (but not wholly. This is the second most believable aspect)
3: Continuity issues!
So those first 2 things could have been believable, but here is where things get thrown compleatly out the window. One of the most glaring issues is the Fourth Mizukage. It's confirmed that Tobi was controlling the Mizukage using a Jutsu that wasunique to Uchiha Shusui's eyes. However despite Tobi's habit for collecting eyes, both eyes were other wise accounted for. And since Obito's eyes are space-time jutsu, not Genjutsu, he can't have been controlling the Mizukage. In addition, it's implied that the Fourth Mizukage was controlled for a very long time. This would be up to the point right after Obtio became Tobi, and possibly even before. Addmitedly that last part is conjecture, but highly likely conjecture. Also, the original Madara knew Tobi, and therefore Obito. But considering that Madara only survived for a little while after his battle with the First Hokage, this would be virtually impossible, as both first and Second were dead before Obito was even born. This would be streatching themeaning of "a short time after" to it's limit. But it's also confirmed that Tobi has the First Hokage's cells too. So where did he get those? Another big whole in the psyche issue is that Tobi helped Itachi kill the Uchiha because he was "someone who held a grudge against the family". While it could be theoretically possible that Obito could want to go for the whole Moon's Eye plan because of the events at the bridge, there is nothing anywhere supporting him having a dislike of the Uchiha. The last problem i'll discuss is Konan's explanation of Tobi's Jutsu. It doesn't fit withen the bounderies of Kamui. Basically the constraints Konan noticed and Tobi confirmed would make it so that Kamui doesn't work period.
I know there are several other issues but these are the one's that came to mind so the y must be important. Normally i wouldn't cry foul on continuity issues (it is a manga afterall) but every other time there's been a big surprise reveal (the Itachi reveal for example) it's all made sense in retrospect. But when you stop to think about this, it makes no sense at all! So i present to you:
A list of awesome people who are far better choices for Tobi than Obito!!! (also said in egoraptor voice)
These are in no particular order, but im just going to start off with this guy cause i was one of the pioneers of this theory: Danzo!!! Wait, Danzo? How could he be Tobi? I wrote a huge blog about this ages ago, and you can see that here if your interested: www.screwattack.com/news/musings-about-naruto-who-tobi-really It was only disproved when it was revealed Tobi uses Kamui, but given that Danzo has Shusui's eye, it's still theoretically possible, but i would be even more disgusted than with the current Obito state if he did that now. The psyche and motive are absoloutly perfect and that was one of the biggest things going for it.
And next possible being is..... A white zetsu clone of Madara! This would actually make sense, as he essentially IS madara, but it allows for how he's so much weaker and "he wants to become a complete form". This is one of the more iffy theories, as while there's nothing against it, there's also very little for it. It makes sense, but Kishi tends to imply those type of stuff before hand.
But what would probably be the best would be Izuna, Madara's brother. Seeing as he lost his eyes, it would explain why he needed all those sharingan. It's never confirmed he died (well he technically was in one of the Data books, but Obito was confirmed dead there too....) and given that he was on par with Madara, it would explain his knowledge and how he survived so long.
There's a few more characters who were less likely Tobi, so i'll just leave it at those 3. It almost seems like Tobi was originally going to be someone else, and making Tobi Obito was an attempt to appeal to a dwindling fanbase. But i would like your opinions on it! If you have anything you disagree with, anything you agree with, think im an idiot, think im a genius, or think that penguins are amazing leave a comment! (dont actually just leave a comment about penguins...) Thanks all!