North American Wii U sales have risen by 200% thanks to the price cut & Wind Waker HD bundle
When did I call anyone stupid? When did I say anything negative about the classics. What I basically said was that the fact that an HD remake makes consol sales while new games like Wonderful 101 didn't is because they bring in both old and new alike. The old players are happy to revisit nostalgia and new players are interested is playing such a popular game themselves. So there is a bigger market for updated classics than a new game that people don't know anything about. Also if you are looking to buy a consol an HD remake is more likely to convince you because you know it's good. Maybe you haven't played it but you know what everyone has said about it. Now look at newer games, you know nothing about them so why would you buy a consol just to play one. It doesn't matter how good a new game is if you don't know it's good.
Microsoft put $40 million into advertising Halo 3 as the Xbox 360 seller (almost twice the money they had spent advertising the Xbox 360 itself) and the big system seller for the PS3 was going to be GT5 (until it got delayed for 7 years or so). Forza 5 is the Xbox One front runner and the PS4 is banking on Second sun. Sony and Microsoft want NOTHING MORE then to use an OLD game to sell NEW systems, because nostalgia works. They just don't have old games good enough, so they make squeals.
The funny part is the Wii U has already old sold the PS3's first year NA and EU sales and isn't really that far behind the both the Xbox 360 and PS3 year one world wide sales (it's about a million behind each). Both system had extremely strong sales the second Christmas they were out however, so it's yet to be seen if the Wii U can do that.
Still, anyone who calls the 4th best selling Consul of all time a "flop" is ... well, just wrong.
That's like saying the fact that a re-released Beatles album outsells something by Kanye means Beatles fans are stupid. Every media has classics that can never be replicated or topped. Nintendo owns 7 of the 10 best selling games of all times and had to invent the title "ever green software" to explain to retailers why they should leave "Mario cart" on the shelves for 4 years when the average game stops selling after 2 months. They would be stupid not to capitalize on their ability to create masterful games that transcend time, and we would be stupid not to take the opportunity to enrich our lives by experiencing them.
As someone who was a retail manager for the Wii, Xbox, and PS3 launches i can tell you exactly what's going to happen to the Wii U when the PS4 lunches (and again a week later then the Xbox comes out); it's going to sell like hot cakes. Stores will bundle it with games and accessories at lower price points and push "on the fence" buyers to buy it knowing stock on the new hardware is constricted. 90% of parents who come in to buy next gen and find it's sold out will leave the store with some other system, and that's going to be the Wii U
Let's see what happens after the PS4/XBO releases.
It doesn't mean that new games suck it's just the power of the classics. Classics draw in all kinds of players, both old and new, while new games, even good ones, may not catch some peoples eyes and don't sell the consol itself. Also think of it this way would you buy a consol in order to play a random game that you may or may not like or would you buy one in order to play a remake of a classic game? So it's just a matter of WW HD being a more secure choice from an established franchise. We'll probably also see jumps when games from the other popular franchises start being released.
I'm not entirely sure if Nintendo and other media outlets should be celebrating this massive increase in sales over an HD remake..........if something brand new like Wonderful 101 and such doesn't make sales but an HD remake of a 10 year old game does, what does that say about the audience it's being sold to?
because after Segas console division fell, nothing, but good Sonic came out right, and if you think that is a mute point, really thing about and I'd realize it isn't. I'd rather have good games ok hardware, instead of sub-par games on powerful hardware.
I always come back to this point. I love Nintendo.....for their games. If the whole console thing fell through, sure it would feel sad for a little while. And then Mario, Zelda, Smash, Mario Kart, Pikmin, Metroid, Donkey Kong, FZero, Star Fox, Kirby, and Pokemon would start coming out for consoles with much more power and Nintendo would start to be able to put more money into their games because they'd be available on every platform. It would be nothing but good for gamers if the console division of Nintendo fell.
I always buy Nintendo consoles near the end of their cycle so I can catch up on...about the big 4 of the generation. But I always buy the console with a sigh.
I have bought tons of remakes, I love remakes. But OLD game should never be what sells your NEW $250 system.
How sad would it be if Sony or Microsoft tried to sell their next gen systems with a promise of Crash Bandicoot and Halo 2 remakes within first year and until then best you had to play was the freaking PS Move / Kinect tech demos that comes with the system?
Well, those are the two reasons I finally bought one so I'm not surprised other people did as well.
Sales will go up when Mario Kart 8, SSB4, Monolith's X and the new Zelda come out. And with the great success of the new 3DS fire emblem, who knows, maybe a wiiu fire emblem can bring up sales. I would really like to see the new zelda. Hopefully they don't get lazy with the graphic potential.
Your talking to the guy who bought Final Fantasy 4, five times ( four time one it was a gift), but still I'm not the best person to talk to about this.
I just want to point out I never played this game, and I bought it, so not everyone who cares about already has it
I know that remakes have sold consoles, I'm just saying that they shouldn't. They're old games that everyone who cared even a little bit already owns. People actually buying a system just for those sends companies bad message telling them that they don't need new and original things to move their hardware when they can just re-re-re-re-re-re-re-release something that was already popular. What makes Wind Waker selling Wii Us even worse is that this is THE game that people always called a timeless masterpiece specifically for it's graphical style that wouldn't need an update in ten years.
See I knew the WiiU wasn't a complete flop. It has some good stuff going for it but it had no good system sellers. This might not be the amazing success that the Wii was but it should make a profit in the end so Nintendo should make it through this fine and then go back to the drawing board for their next system. I'd suggest a system centered around occulus rift technology. That is where gaming is going not 3D gimmicks or camera toys.
I don't know the Persona 4 remake sold a lot of vitas. The Final Fantasy 3 remake made me buy a DS.
Considering the sales are only in the hundred of thousands, 200% is not much, but still, with a new Mario in Christmas, there will be a bigger rise. Competition is not something to worry about, like when the Wii U launched, the PS4 and Xbone don't really have any major system selling exclusives right now, and they won't get a lot of those until much later. Still, 2014 shall surely be interesting in terms of consumer interest, especially when it comes to the price of these things.
we are getting more than this, the developers just wanted to make this in between since they shat their pants when testing the new light engine on it
Sometimes I wish that people would demand more from Nintendo than Zelda remakes. I like remakes, but they should never be system sellers.