The Research of Goku VS Superman
Hi! I'm Ben Singer. I direct, write, and edit DEATH BATTLE and play the character Wiz. Chad James plays Boomstick and co-writes. Jordan Lange is our talented animator who builds the eye-candy fight scenes… and that's the DEATH BATTLE team for you! Yep, there's just us three.
The upcoming episode of Goku VS Superman is the definition of legendary. Wiz and Boomstick have been doing this for over 2 years, and have gotten real good at being experts on weird, nerdy stuff. However, we knew if we were going to get this one right - and I mean 100% irrefutably right in a way that would change the web forever - we would have to find some more experts on weird, nerdy stuff. We contacted several qualified consultants in all things Dragon Ball and Superman. It didn't take long for this episode to suddenly turn into a massive collaboration between all sorts of different websites!
So let me introduce you to the team!
Our first Dragon Ball consultant is Derek Padula, a Dragon Ball analyst and author of "The Dao of Dragon Ball" and "Dragon Ball Z: "It's Over 9,000!" When Worldviews Collide." You know that one meme about that one number that everybody thinks is hilarious? Yeah, he wrote a whole freakin' book about it!
Padula has been instrumental in researching and discussing the Taoist philosophy and psychology of Son Goku. With his help, we are 100% confident in our representation of everyone's favorite Super Saiyan. Click here to check out our review of Padula's book.
But we couldn't stop there. We reached out to Kanzenshuu.com, the biggest collective resource of Dragon Ball on the web. Kanzenshuu is actually the combined merging of two separate Dragon Ball resource sites: Daizenshuu EX and Kanzentai.
Kanzenshuu was suggested to me by a couple g1s through my Twitter and Facebook, and I couldn't have predicted just how HUGE this website is! They cover news, write guides on animators, rumors, the original endings of DBZ and more, and have one of the most insightful Dragon Ball podcasts on the net. They also take great care in translating the Japanese content for us English speaking people, like the encyclopedic Daizenshuu guides. Boy, those are handy.
Mike LaBrie and the rest of the Kanzenshuu staff went above and beyond investigating the limits and specifics of Goku. They were instrumental in ensuring our research and calculations matched the original Japanese manga. We've caught dozens of game-changing mistranslations solely because of them. Like how Goku's Instant Transmission is not light-speed like the English dub says. And you won't believe how long we spent debating how many nuclear warheads Goku could survive! . . . yeah, we're all a bunch of dorks.
But even with all the mistranslating and misconceptions, Superman was just as difficult to pin down the facts for! There are so many different comics, books, movies, shows, and games all with slightly different depictions, I had no idea how we could cover every single thing on our own. Luckily, the staffs of two huge Superman sites were up to the challenge!
I call the Superman Super Site the "Mom N' Pop Superman Site." Not really sure why, I guess it just has that feel of authentic devotion and trust. It's run by Neil and Jennifer Cole, and is a complete database of Superman in entertainment. They've got troves of information on even the most obscure Superman stories, including entire movie scripts for Superman films that never took flight! (Pun intended)
Neil and Jennifer are the nicest Superman fans in the world, digging deep to find the facts and answering all my questions even when they had to leave town unexpectedly. They were vital in covering "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman," which was the the one television show I had difficulties getting 100% coverage of. Yeah. We covered EVERYTHING. When we say "No page unturned, no scene unwatched," we mean it.
If Kanzenshuu is the ultimate database for Dragon Ball, then Superman Homepage is the equivalent for the Man of Steel. I don't even know where to begin with this site! If you're interested in something Superman, you'll find it here! Superman Homepage has made a huge impact on not only fans, but also the official creators and writers. They even had a cameo in the television show Smallville. Some of my research about Superman came from listening to their podcast, where they talk about Superman's stories, themes, and depictions in detail.
Superman Homepage is headed by Steve Younis AKA possibly the most knowledgeable Superman fan on the planet! He and his staff of experts and enthusiasts were a big help pinpointing exactly what kind of limits Superman has… which became a key factor in the final decision.
We're also excited to have MasakoX of Dragon Ball Z Abridged fame starring as Goku, and It'sJustSomeRandomGuy and his famous "I'm a Marvel… and I'm a DC" voice taking the role of Superman. And for the first time in DEATH BATTLE history, you will hear an original musical theme score setting the stage for the epic duel, courtesy of Blake Robinson's Synthetic Orchestra. Not to mention the fine folks of Team Four Star have been a tremendous help in communication and finding talent.
Needless to say… we've been busy.
This wonderful group of people has accomplished far more than I initially thought possible. Be sure to see the result of our research/analysis/writing/acting/composing/designing/animating/work this Friday, as the ultimate DEATH BATTLE premieres on December 21st, 2012.
So long as the world doesn't end first, I suppose…
Thank you, thank you.
It's common for rip-offs to try and one-up the original. And what part of LIMITLESS seems to allude people? If Superman can absorb an infinite amount of solar energy, and it doesn't have to be the sun. Blue stars enhance his powers far more than the sun, it's just that the sun is closer and bigger than blue stars and he normally will go to the sun for energy. Goku maxes out at Super Saiyan 3 (or 4 if you want to count it) but after that, he can't go any further, because there is no more further he can go. Superman isn't restricted to how much energy he absorbs, and since there is an infinite source of solar energy, his strength, speed, durability, everything is infinite.
Why do so many of you don't understand how Instant Transmission works.
I dunno, I'd vote for an honest politician. Several others probably would, too. :D
Except for the insult...
...I completely agree with you.
AAAHHH RUN THE END IS NIGH!
Goku killed Piccolo at the very least. Superman executed three Kryptonian criminals. They both have it in them to kill. Which makes the argument that neither would win because they don't kill even MORE invalid.
The sad thing is, he probably is serious. But that's Stupid 101 for you. LOL
lol ur mad
I stopped reading at Gotenks flying around earth at something around the speed of sound. Should have stopped at Goku not faster than light. Meanwhile they dodge lightspeed attacks since the sayan saga if not earlier. Piccolo and roshi sent FTL blasts at the moon, Raditz dodged a faster beam from Piccolo and none of these attacks would make anyone blink later in the series. Gotenks didnt just fly around the earth he flew in GIANT loops out into space, the length of some of these loops were as big as TWO earths AND he took a nap afterward. Typical fanboy lowballing dbz because of bs Superman obsessed fanboys literred the web with. All dbzers have reaction speed far past light speed which is why they dodge and react to light beam attacks easily. In the android saga the androids shot PHOTON beams not KI which is LIGHT and the dbzers dodged these easily, Vegeta dodged standing less than a foot away from the fat android's face. As far as all that superman shit thats FLIGHT speed and as usual will be irrelevant because Goku and him are not racing. Superman doesnt use that shit in COMBAT speed which is why people way below light speed punch his face in all the time.
Who has superman used that against? Was that when wonder woman was beating his face in?
shut up moron I've been reading superman comics longer than you've been able to read. Clearly since you are too stupid to read what my username is.
Siiiigh.. Goku doesn't have to use it like that.. it's just probably easier for him to channel his power if he goes through the whole bit. He's been shown several times to use Kamehameha instantaneously. In fact, one of the earliest times was when he fought Nappa and Nappa tried to blast him with that beam from his mouth at close range.
oh look a dbz wanker they're everywhere now
-_- your not serious
They have no speed feats beyond high end mach speeds. And that came from the Buu saga. As far in to the Cell saga, they were still slower than the Solar Flare, which is just intensifying the brightness of the sun's rays. If they can't react to actual light, they sure as hell aren't faster than light. Superman has actual feats of seeing individual protons and even moving/reacting in femtoseconds or less, meaning he's millions to billions of times faster than light. No one in DBZ can make that claim. Goku and Vegeta couldn't even outrun Kid Buu's planet busting explosion without Kibito Kai's help, and the attack itself was only hypersonic in speed, and no, it only took place over actual real life seconds, seeing as Mister Satan, who does not have super speed, was still able to move and think within that time frame while Goku was trying to save him.
....You do realize that Superman was put under red sunlight, right? And also, the fight was staged too. Ali and Superman were working together to overcome the alien plot.
as they get faster in dbz their attacks become faster too. stop being salt that goku is faster in ssj3 and 4
lol i thought i saw superman on a stretcher after casius clay put a whoopin on him, Mahammed ali said that he was so fast that he hit the lightswitch one night and got to the bed before the light turned off and now I believe him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-5_8af3TiY @1:19 lol no wonder he beat superman
Superman fans have some weird fascination with hypocritically lowballing dbz and misapplying or even purposely lying about Superman feats and their particulars. Thats what actually made me start to like Goku in the first place. I got so tired of the bs I read from superman fans which I easily spotted since I am a superman fan who reads the comics.
The 'galaxy sneezing' Pre Crisis Superman got knocked out by Muhammad Ali in a boxing match. and has more showings like that than the shit like sneezing out a galaxy.