[Rumor] Two new Castlevania games are in development
Lords of Shadow was considered a good Castlevania game and while I couldn’t really enjoy it, that won’t keep Konami from creating a sequel. Rumored by the Paul Gale Network (famous for first revealing Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale), Konami is going to reveal two new games in the lineage of the Castlevania franchise and we should find out about them at E3.
Castlevania: Mirror of Fate will be an original IP for the 3DS and has already been in development for a year and a half. It will be a more traditional 2D experience with co-op and two protagonists. PGN reports that the front/rear cameras will be used in AR puzzles and the Wii U was actually being considered as an additional platform. That changed when Konami started working on a sequel to Castlevania: Lords of Shadow for PS3, Xbox 360, Vita (yay!), and now Wii U.
Little is known about Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2, but with E3 so close, there isn’t much time for speculation. Go, go, go!
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I appreciate your mature reply, man, and I'm sorry I was such a jerk earlier.
I just can't stress enough that I don't feel LoS was a bad game, but it just missed something from the atmosphere. Don't get me wrong, LoS did have a good atmosphere, it just wasn't one I could recognize as a Castlevania atmosphere -- in that respect, it did feel like God of War meets Shadow of the Colossus. Otherwise, the gameplay was good and something all its own...it's a shame that I was disappointed by it, even more so that I can't concisely explain why.
I'm glad we could sort this out like reasonable people, though -- you have my respect. :)
I can appreciate you not liking LoS because it didn't suit your tastes. That's something I can respect. I just tend to over-react when I hear somebody mention Castlevania being a God of War clone. It's not a valid argument for downgrading the game. I won't go into the whole clone/copy business, it's too irrelevant to the topic, but I urge you to get with the times and not direct me to poor reviews like the one from X-Play (for example), which flatout calls it a "God of War meets Shadow of the Colossus". It's not that I'm trying to bash your opinion, I just want a more reasonable one.
There's just one thing that's bothering me now. It seems I gave the impression that I'm too proud of myself. Trust me, if you were in my chair, there is little to feel proud about. I'd just like to know what makes me a hypocrite? Is it because I enjoyed LoS because it was different, yet I'm not a follower of SotN because that too was different? Allow me to explain that my reason for not liking SotN was because it wasn't just different, but it completely altered the entire franchise around it. For example, I think there was too much of an emphasis on replicating SotN in Harmony of Dissonance, right down to character design and plot twists. It brought in too many sequels, and too many returns of Dracula with several different castles.
I'll bring up comments from other people that are quite excited for the LoS sequel, some of which are in this very article! Below are a few forum threads that praises the game for all the right reasons: I won't give you much. I don't want to ask too much of you.
Here's a couple positive video reviews to watch at your own time. Also, be sure to read comments to see more people talk about how it's criminally underrated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHTnMEHdvM (Classic Game Room) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTov342NYls (ZeitgeistReviews)
Hold on, let me stoop down to your level....
I'm sorry to be forced to give an English lesson, but to copy something is not the same thing as "cloning." A clone is a carbon copy, but something can still immitate without being a clone. As far as LoS being a God of War clone goes, yes, that's exactly what it was in my (and others) experience. You think otherwise; fine, good for you -- that doesn't mean that anyone who thinks otherwise is a "jackass." Oh sorry, I forgot about my English lesson:
"Copy" (source: Merriam-Webster dictionary)
1: the aggregate of genetically identical cells or organisms asexually produced by a single progenitor cell or organism 2 : an individual grown from a single somatic cell or cell nucleus and genetically identical to it 3 : a group of replicas of all or part of a macromolecule and especially DNA
If I honestly have to further explain the differences between "identical" and "resemblance," than I would seriously recommend you consult a dictionary before acting like a condescending cock. Something can immitate without becoming identical. You also say that the 2D RPG Castlevanias "stole" the Metroid gameplay. Well aside from that just being fucking wrong, it completely contradicts the point you're trying to make for LoS. I may not have felt it was worthy of the Castlevania name, and it felt too similar to God of War/Dante's Inferno, etc, not because of how it looked but because of how it played (itself) out; guess what, that doesn't mean you can't feel differently and not still be correct. The fact that you have to resort to insults to defend the game is just pathetic, plain and simple.
What truly baffles me here is that you seem to think I claimed that God of War was a genre. It isn't -- don't put words in my mouth just to give yourself an excuse to make yourself seem smarter.
"Loon?" Okay, so because I played a game, didn't like it, felt its atmosphere was lacking, and above all felt it delivered the exact same thing as another game (and rightfully so) without giving me ANYTHING I enjoyed as a Castlevania fan....I'm somehow crazy? Sorry, but you need to climb off of your high horse and come back down to Earth. Between the two of us, you're the first to resort to name-calling -- so please explain to me how I'm a "jackass" simply for having a different opinion than you do? Grow up, dude.
Finally, I don't need to prove it. Get up off your ass and actually look at the reviews for the game. When several gaming sites are looking at the new Lords of Shadow with skepticism, you have to kind of ask yourself, "why?" Head over to DToid, or fuck, look up ScrewAttack's review.
I never once said it was a bad game, I said it didn't feel like a Castlevania to me, and a lot of others agree. Deal with it, hypocrite. Oh, and you might want to get your attitude checked out, too -- it makes you seem like a tool.
Don't bother replying. After how much of a dick you've proven yourself to be, I don't care whether you make a good point or not. Get your ego in check, then we'll talk. I'm through with making a scene over your self-righteous jargon.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to take a shower. There's something about having to stoop down to your level and use petty insults that makes me feel dirty...
Inherited? Don't you mean STOLE? And I'm sorry to tell you this, but there is no difference between "Copy" and "Clone". To copy something, is the exact same thing as cloning it. The two words by definition are similes to one another!
By the way, buddy. God of War is not a genre. Hell, God of War took the elements of already established titles like Devil May Cry and Castlevania: Lament of Innocence, and nearly perfected the formula. As for LoS "offering literally no experience different" than God of War, you're sounding like a total loon by including that phrase. You're a complete jackass that only sees black and white, and that "if the gameplay looks the same, it must be exactly the same". No. The atmosphere was more varied in Castlevania. The musical score had far wider range in emotional depth in Castlevania. The main characters were vastly different, where Kratos is practically the embodiment of anger, Gabriel Belmont felt more human in his actions.
To say that Lords of Shadow was just a "clone" of God of War in every way, you're insulting the franchise and the fanbase; and you believe that a majority of Castlevania fans will agree with you? Prove it!
"Did you seriously call Lords of Shadow a clone, when every portable game aside from the Dracula: Rondo of Blood remake was a complete copy of Metroid?" There's a difference between 'copy' and 'clone.' Those games inherited the traits of the Metroid series, but altogether gave a different experience. LoS is a carbon copy of God of War, offering literally no experience different than that of the aforementioned franchise.
That's just from my experience with it, and I'm willing to bet the majority of Castlevania fans out there would agree with me.
Lords of shadows 2??? Shut up and take my money!!!
I consider Lords of Shadow among the best in a long, long time. The fact that the series was actually taken seriously with extreme care to detail within the background, as well as the orchestrated score, sold me. As for the moment with Dracula, I entirely disagree with you. To have a Belmont become Dracula sets a perfect tone for Gabriel's descendants to take up the pledge. It gives the lineage a deeper, more intimate connection than what was previously established. For that reason, I openly accept Lords of Shadow as the new chronology because, seriously, the original plotline is becoming crowded with castles and clans. It needs a fresh start.
You know how everyone jokes about how many times Princess Peach had been kidnapped by Bowser? For Castlevania, it's becoming a joke how many times Dracula has been defeated. It calls his power to question. If he's so feared and godlike, then how come so many witches, hunters, and even his own son, all which aren't even Belmonts, defeated him?
What you speak of insults me as a Castlevania fan. Did you seriously call Lords of Shadow a clone, when every portable game aside from the Dracula: Rondo of Blood remake was a complete copy of Metroid? Hell, we all call it "Metroidvania" openly, so to call LoS a copy of God of War is totally hypocritical.
Second. Dude, read the comments. People are excited for this sequel. I'm excited for the sequel because it has everything in common with the old school Castlevania games. A playable Belmont, the variety of locations, the Universal Monsters homages with Frankenstein; but Lords of Shadow did something no other game ever dared try to do. Establish an origin story for Dracula; and I'm not talking about Lament of Innocence here, where it's basically a selfish grudge. They turned Dracula into something iconic. A true sympathetic villain. You may not understand how important this is for the series, you're probably more than okay with slaying Dracula for a bazillionth time, but the franchise needs the Lords of Shadow sequel. It needs this reboot.
And SKELETON SNAKE DRAGONS FROM THE WALL!
Just add SUPER!
I'm sure Egoraptor would have something to say about this.
Why so little talk about actually bringing Castlevania back to its roots.
I really enjoyed Castlevania LOS but heard it didnt do very well so I sequel was out the picture but to hear that it may be considered makes this dude smile.
I personally would love a return to form, LoS just didn't feel like a Castlevania game, that being said I did enjoy it, just not like a Castlevania game. I guess since i grew up with the originals, those are the ones that I always enjoy most, and am hoping for a return to that form.
Castlevania Judgment 2 :D ?
Okay, after reading other comments, I have to throw some thoughts in.
First of all to those who call it a "God of War clone," just shut your face...seriously. God of War is nothing but a Devil May Cry clone. GoW did a lot of things great and even built upon DMC's formula...but they did use DMC's formula. Making it, in and of itself, a clone.
Secondly, great programmers learn from the past. They learn what is fun. They learn what works and what doesn't. LoS programmers did just that. Play control is very tight. Graphics and setting are absolutely amazing. And the settings and puzzles just really break this game into greatness.
Third, I can damn near guarentee that anyone who dislikes this game or calls it a clone did not play very far in to it. Until you start gaining new powers and abilities, it is very bland and very similar to other games that have been released. Even a close friend of mine who is nearly the CV geek that I am gave up on the game.....before he fought the first Lord of Shadow (FYI, there are 3 Lords in the game.) It wasn't until I talked to him and told he need to get to a certain point (the Gauntlet) that the game improved a lot and when he got to another point (The Wings) that the game would then shine like a beacon.
Try playing the Music Box stage and then tell me that this game is a clone of anything. I will gladly accept correction if someone can prove this type of stage happened before. Because I sure as hell have never seen it.
The Doctor has spoken.
I have played every Castlevania...*EVERY* Castlevania (NES, Genesis, SNES, N64, GB, GBA, DS, etc). LoS was a big departure from all of the other releases, I will fully admit. But at the same time it was amazingly well done and a blast to play. Perhaps if you took it off Squire difficulty you wouldn't think it "played itself" so much.
LoS was an amazing game. Controls, graphics, story were all top notch. As for Dracula, LoS and more specifically the DLC explains his creation. That is why he wasn't in the main game til the very end.
Ever since LoS has been released there are 2 official storylines. Lament of Innocence(PS2/XBOX) marks the beginning of the original timeline while Lords of Shadow (PS3/360) marks the beginning of the alternate timeline. News hasn't been released on the 3DS specifics, but I would imagine that it will take place in the LoS or alternate timeline. Mainly since the only time period that hasn't been covered in the original timeline is the "Great Battle of 1999."
I thoroughly enjoyed Lords of Shadow and look forward to seeing more, as long as it is made by Mercury Steam (the studio of LoS) again. As for the handheld version, that may be enough to get me to buy a 3ds finally. Several games have been released that intrigue me, but I am I Castlevania and Metroid *FANATIC* and have bought systems simply to play those games alone. CV3DS probably will not be an exception.