A warning on the topic of Subscriptions...
Editor's Note: I think Gaijin Goomba makes a pretty good point. Competition is healthy, but there is no reason to be nasty to each other about who has more subscriptions. We just wanted to make it easier to stay in touch with the people that matter to you on ScrewAttack, all while exploring our great content So play nice and encourage others to do the same. Oh and I added the banner to spice things up, courtesy of DeviantARTist ShoTro.
I'll be the first to admit that I'm probably not the best one to bring this subject up, let alone voice my opinion on it. I understand I'm one of the most subscribed g1s right now, but I don't think that means I can't voice concern as someone who loves this community.
I put a message about it on my wall, but I wanted to make a blog about it as well...
Please understand, I don't think this has become the epidemic I am making it out to be! I am just very afraid of what can happen with a few of the changes to ScrewAttack. Specifically subscriptions.
Subscribing is a great and wonderful tool for this site. It lets us follow the people whose content we believe to be excellent, fun, or just entertaining. It is TRULY an awesome thing. ...But there is a dark side to this, and I'm already seeing it happen. I'm seeing people (myself included,) getting ridiculed or just generally pestered for having "too many" or "too few" subs. Let me give a few examples of a few things I've been hearing...
Maybe you just haven't been noticed yet. A lot of people could tell you that it's taken time for them to get a good amount of subs. Remember, this feature is still very new to SA and it may take some time for people to catch on. The point here is that you should be making content because YOU WANT TO MAKE CONTENT! Not because you want subs and attention. The people with a high number of subs are people who are making content because they love the community and/or have some really good ideas for things. The moment you stop making things because you love to do it is the moment you cross into the dark side.
Because it's what Craig, Lauren, Ben, Bryan, Jared, Nick, Sean, and all the other staff decide that. If you have a problem with that, you probably shouldn't be here. It is THEIR call who they feature and who they don't. Besides, there are quite a few people who are on suggested subs that haven't broken triple digits who, in my opinion, deserve it! Being on suggested subs doesn't mean you will automatically get noticed by everyone.
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YES I CAN talk! You know why?! Because I didn't kiss anyone's ass to get it! I'm sorry but this comment is what really pissed me off and made me want to write this blog. And no, this wasn't JUST one person who said this either. I didn't email Craig, or Nick, or Jared, or any of the peeps at ScrewAttack and was like, "I'll be your monkeyboy if you suggested subs me." I'm on it because they chose to put me on it, and that is THEIR decision, and no one else's. Craig and the gang could take me down from suggested subs right now, and you know what? I wouldn't make a fuss about it, because it's THEIR decision. I want people to sub to me because they enjoy my content. Not because they're blindly following the words of others.
And for the record, just because you are a suggested sub, doesn't promise triple digit numbers. Don't believe me? Ask James Ronald, JRokuushi, or Squaredrabbit. And these guys DESERVE it IMO, but you haven't heard them complain.
Comments like this do nothing but make you look like you are desperate for subs. This HURTS guys. The reason I'm here is because of the kindness of the community. DON'T take that away from here. If you're going to play that card and tell me my opinion doesn't matter because I've been able to be successful, you can kindly go dive into a stump grinder.
Got news for ya guys, I really didn't either. With the exception of endorsements from Ryan and Lime, I haven't really gotten mentioned by many people for sub Saturday (apologies if I am overlooking someone who gave me a shout out). And you know what? I'm ok with that. The only thing that I hope for when I put up content is that people enjoy it. I don't care about how MANY do, because you know what? If I stimulated just one person's thinking, that's ok with me. It goes back to the whole, "Make stuff because you want to, not to get attention."
Look people... I'm not saying that this has become an epidemic, though I know I sound like it has. I am just very, VERY nervous about division in the community over subs. Subs were put here to help us stay connected with people's content that we really like. It was NOT put here to start popularity contests. Remember those? Remember in school how so many people only cared about what other people thought about them? Remember how much we hated them? Don't bring that crap here. Do NOT bring ScrewAttack to that level. Enjoy the content, subscribe to the people you like, and be happy when people decide to follow you. But keep your epeen in your pants. Connect more, be judgmental less
Sorry for the rant guys, but I felt like it needed to be said. Please, please, please do not make subscriptions into a bad thing.
This is Gaijin Goomba, signing out.
Old man coming through! Get out of my way you punks! Am I late here, oh fiddlesticks, that damn car never runs right, that brake is always sticking.
There was a poll conducted on the front page of ScrewAttack a few weeks ago asking how many subscribers you have. At the time I had 22, so I clicked the 21-50 range. The results were somewhat humbling. Over 80% of responders had 0-5 subs, and only 5% had over 20 subs. What does that mean? Even it you have 15 subs, you are easily in the top 20% of all g1s.
Before I saw that, I was in your "I make great stuff, why so low?" group. I mean I've had like 5, 6 spotlights, and several blogs get over 1000 views, so wtf? Then I saw that and it was like, "Wow, I do have a bunch." I have more now than I did during v4, so I guess I'm moving on up.
I think that would be a really good idea, because those subscription numbers are pointless in the first place. They always have been.
Gaijin Goomba you handsome chestnut devil, you make a very good point. Awesome blog and I strongly agree on your viewpoint.
Yep. I'm not too fussed either.
Do you want a simple solution to this? take away that you can see how many subscribers others have. I don't even see the purpose in knowing how many subscribers others have. make it so that you can only see how many subscribers you have yourself and if your curios about how many someone else have then ask them and let them decide if it is something they like to discuss or not.
I just release content to get my opion out there. To me, subsriptons mean a person wants to hear your thoughs/whatch shows you create. Let me finish with a quote... "It's for fun" Kirbopher.
competing for subscriptions? as long as ur content has quality then u might get highlighted, and i'd still doubt people would actually subscribe since SA subscription thing is still kinda busted, i dont want my inbox to be filled up especially since most of the message are duplicates
This blog = win :D
I'm not obsessed with my subscription number. As long as anyone reads my dark material, I'm good.
This is an awesome blog Gaijin Goomba. You saw a could be potential flaw in the new screwattack and put time and effort to point it out by posting a blog. Thank you for your care for the Community.
I don't think it was necessary to make such an elongated rant about the whole matter, but I sure I agree with your point in all its entirety.
As for me, I never cared for attention neither here or youtube for that matter...I give my input and share content because I desire for it to be this way. There's no drive other than my own.
For example: @Screwattack is following me on twitter while 'I am' flattered, at the same time I could care less if they didn't...I didn't do anything for them to follow me, they just did it out of their own volition to do so as well as 'vice-versa'.
We're here to enjoy the content, whether its screwattack's or another G1's, together as fellow G1s. It's what separates us from other communities.
....and with that, Gaijin Goomba, consider me 'SUBSCRIBED'. =D
Yea, only at two instances have people ever messaged me and said something like, "I like your animation, subscribe to me". Like I mean REALLY?! I could never take pride in whatever number of subscribers/followers/whatevers I accumulate if I got it all from groveling and begging for people to subscribe to me.
I do want to make videos for a living, so I'm just going to continue doing what I love and hope that people can (slowly but surely) find my work :)
Good point dude. People should put out content cause they want to not to get subscriptions or prove how popular they are. Like Craig said on tuesday on Screwin' Around the subscriptions are for the G1s to keep up with content and to communicate with each other, not to boost ones ego like some people out there(not talking about you Goomba). Hopefully the G1s who are complaining about their subscriptions being will read your blog and realize the SA crew made the site what it is so G1s have a better way of comunicating with each other and an awesome site to put the content that they produce.
As someone who was "part" of a small scale "blog war" in the past (as in: I was part of one of the blogs involved, but really didn't gave 2 cents about what the "war" was all about) that was all about "who has more comments and/or views"...
I am Fundertaker, and I whole-heartedly approve of this blog and its message.
Good point Gaijin Goomba. I think I'm on the same page as you. I just want people to enjoy my content. I don't care how many views or subs I get. I just want to know if people like it haha
so true, and I think every now and then people should look at this post and give it a re-read just to keep things in perspective
I give 0 fucks about subs cause I'm hardly on main site anyway. In the end subs are like "friends" on facebook everyone seems to know 1 million people
I have none, so I win!
I tip my hat to you good sir. It's people like you who remind us what SA is all about. Most people on this site should he happy they get at least one sub.
Think half full guys!
Great point I didn't even realize there were people who were already doing things like this. I'm like you, one of the many reasons I love ScrewAttack is because of the GREAT community and considering all the GREAT stuff ScrewAttack has done for us we need to do great things for them as well so at the very least we could keep this the BEST ONLINE COMMUNITY EVER!!!XD