What Emulators and Re-releases really mean - a rebuttal to Dark Magician
Recently, my fellow user Dark Magician gave his thoughts on the rerelease of the 2 precursor games for Marvel Vs. Capcom 2: Marvel Vs. Capcom, and Marvel Superheroes. This particular line of thinking is one I have seen in a number of other settings, so I thought I'd share my thoughts in response. So, to Dark Magician, I say simply:
You snobby little shit.
Who the hell do you think you are, getting to decide how other people should be allowed to play games? Saying that these games should adhere to your idea of purity? What the fuck is wrong with you? To break down his argument, I've tried seperating into two main points, illustrated by two quotes from his article
Fine. Fucking do that if you're so fucking dedicated to antiquities that you'll throw away good money on an outdated console. But for people who don't have money to waste on collecting every decade old consoles just to play one game, thats not a fucking option. These people can't just plop down the (at the very, very least) $80 for a Dreamcast and a copy of Marvel Vs. Capcom, just on a fucking whim. These people exist in the real world, where money doesn't grow on trees, convenience isn't some kind of fucking sin, and playing crap consoles doesn't make you some kind of big fucking man.
You may prefer the original game over an emulated experience. Thats fine. You may even be disparaging to people who play the emulated experience - that makes you a snivelling self-important stuck-up stiff-neck, as well as just making you an all around egalitarian asshole, but thats your problem.
But you do not, I repeat, do not act like you somehow lose something because new people can share the exact same fucking experiences you had without having to jump through some bullshit hoops. If you cared about these games even a fraction, you would be overjoyed at the idea of gamers who haven't been able to get their hands on these games being able to enjoy the experience.
When the Ico and Shadow of the Colossus collection came out, was I disparaging to new gamers who hadn't tried it before? Fuck no - I was ecstatic that more people could experience what I experienced. My passion for that game is not something that was rationed to me - having more people enjoy it did not diminish the gammut of emotions this game made me feel, it made them all the stronger. My experience was the same as it had always beeen, but now, thousands of new gamers could enjoy those experiences. What kind of person would want to withhold those experiences from someone just cause they didn't buy the game the first time around?
And what do you think this is doing, numbnuts? You think denying people access to gamings history is going to somehow deepen their appreciation for it? Imagine if any other medium worked like this - if some snootyy bastard railed against a DVD release of Bridge over River Kwai, on the grounds that people should just see it in the theatres. Would that be acceptable from any adult? Why is gaming any different?
Appreciation for history has never - I repeat, never - been deepened by restricting access to it. In fact, restricting access to history is done only by people who don't want people looking into that history - it is one of the defining history of anAuthoritarian dictatorship, restricting access to histories to only the "approved" ways of experiencing it.
By making it inconvenient and expernsive to play any version of this game - not to mention blocking efforts to improve the original experience of the game - you are only driving people away from any interest in gamings history. The very thing you claim to be trying to do, and you're railing against the thing that would accomplish that.
Gaming is not something you need to "prove your worth" through some arbitrary fucking test to enjoy- it is an experience we share, and by sharing our experience grow to love them more. It is inclusionary - always has been, and always bloody well should be. Anyone who loves these games should be overjoyed that they are being rereelased so a new generation can enoy them
But you don't, do you? Its not about the games in the slightest. Its about you getting to act like you're important cause "You guys, I totally had a 3DO growing up, that makes me a real gamer." Yeah, no it fucking doesn't. Being passionate about games, makes you a gamer. Sharing tales of your proudest gaming moments, makes you a gamer. But saying that people shouldn't be able to play unless they plop down money on an outdated console, ignoring the convenient, legal ways that these people have available, just cause you had to do it that way?
That just makes you an asshole.
It was lol. Should have seen it earlier but I don't come on the main site enough.
Well now we will never know.
...Wibbers, is that you?
Fine, if you disagree with DM, I am fine with that. If you want to say some nasty things to him and go uncut, I am fine with doing that as long as it isn't in public. If you send him a personal message or something, that's fine. But honestly, posting a blog about it and letting the whole site see it wasn't necessary. I get you want to be confrontational, but do it privately. Not publicly.
I fail to see how my continual self deprecation and admittance of my own faults could paint me as arrogant.
My style is generally confrontational, but thats really only the way I deal with people who piss me off. Some would claim thats everyone here, but generally, I try to keep my temper whenever I deal with other people.
However, I don't extend courtesy to people who I feel are acting completely over the line. I felt that DM's attack on a system that can really only be a good thing just cause it would allow people to experience things in a way he doesn't approve, was over that line. As such, I just gave an uncut abuse at the guy for doing that. Originally, this was a reply on his thread, but when I hit the 6th paragraph, I just copy pasted it into the Post Blog section and kept typing.
I'm not saying you can't get mad at them, nor am I trying to limit your free speech. This is just something the g1 community doesn't appreciate. e urdu point
I think you've gotten enough comments about your writing style, so I won't waist time telling you something you've already heard. I will say you make some great points, and I do agree with points from you and DM. I just don't agree with you having to attack DM like this.
Look Fulchrum, I think you are a talented writer, and no I am not kissing up to you. You make good points, and at times you can be an intelligent guy. But I'm gonna level with you, the g1s don't like you because you come off as arrogant and obnoxious. If you took out the attacks on DM and maybe one or two out of the plethora of times you said "fuck", then maybe I would consider this an extremely well made blog that's a good rebuttal. But when people see the direct name-calling, they start to see past the opinions. I think you could be more respected as a g1 if you stop name-calling and attacking g1s.
I'm not saying you can't get mad at them, nor am I trying to limit your free speech. This is just something the g1 community doesn't appreciate.
Well, you do bring up some good points, but... all the constant swearing seems a tad out of place. (and I swear quite a bit so thats saying something). And direct namecalling? Not cool. If you're gonna write a response to someone, I would advise you to do it in a respectful manner so that it makes you seem like an intelligent individual. Blindly cussing at the person with a few good points scattered here and there makes it seem like you think your opinion only matters and that you're always right.
I usually don't comment on how you argue with people around the site, as I do understand that no matter how many good points people may have, they are still expressing their opinions on their favorite (and not-so-favorite) subjects. However, while this blog was very spot-on with my own opinion about re-releases, the direct insults were just out of place, even if that's your so-called style of writing. We're not on MyNintendoNews, we're not on IGN, and we're certainly not on 4chan's /v/ board. We're in a community where, among the simple-minded fanboys who won't understand how companies manipulate our minds to get our money (true story), there are tons of open-minded people who would love to debate and make reasonable arguments with your own opinions. But if you continue attacking them directly with this type of attitude, that will simply discourage them from countering and instead insult you back by calling you a troll. If that's your plan, then I'll keep my mouth shut and let everyone give you the feedback you deserve, but if you're here to make a statement of your opinion and make them understand, you need to start respecting other people regardless of what they think.
Cursing and insulting - when done right - are generally not frown upon here on ScrewAttack; if that were the case neither me or DM would get our articles frontpaged. But directly insulting someone and demoralizing them because of their opinion is a big no-no, even if they can take it. Unless there's some mutual agreement where you and your opponent have no qualms about receiving insults (and specify in the blog a disclaimer that neither party has a problem with it), keep insults at a minimum. Other than that, the sky's the limit.
I agree that remakes are a great way for someone who has missed out on the original to experience a game.
What I don't agree with is your personal attack on DM. Does he really deserve to be called a 'snobby shit' for having a different opinion about video game remakes? There's nothing wrong with arguing against his point, but the way you've talked about him has totally undermined your point.
*claps slowly yet passionately*
I think this post makes some great points! BUT...
“It's very dramatic when two people come together to work something out. It's easy to take a gun and annihilate your opposition, but what is really exciting to me is to see people with differing views come together and finally respect each other.” - Mr. Rogers
Cursing is cool, attacking DM's ideas are cool, but I don't like the name calling. Not because I don't think DM can handle it, but I don't want to discourage other people from participating.
No offense Fulchrum, but there are a few lines in here that are directed at DM and not his ideas. And those two things are not alike in meaning or significance. I still like your style and passion, but just think you waste it by calling DM "a snobby little shit" or "an asshole".
Well that's your 2 cents on him, but there's one thing I disagree with. Fulchrum DOES want to be a part of the Screwattack community. If he didn't, he wouldn't be posting blogs on here, let alone be an advantage member. And honestly, my guess is Fulchrum was probably rubbed the wrong way when he read Dark Magician's blog and wrote his 2 cents in this blog, which ended up rubbing other people the wrong way.
I have no problem with him making a rebuttal (as many g1's have also done this) and I also have no problem with him dropping a couple of f-bombs (he may use those at his discretion but it honestly weakens his points). But attacking another user by calling him an asshole and a "snobby little shit" is NOT okay. The funny thing is, I actually agree with Fulchrum in this post and I'd leave it be if he wasn't so rude and condescending to Dark Magician.
See, the g1 community is built upon respect. Just because someone has a different opinion than yours, doesn't make them wrong. Many g1's have had disagreements with each other but it's never resulted in name-calling or personal attacks as you've seen in this blog. The esteemed (and I use that word very loosely) gentleman who wrote this blog has yet to learn that lesson. He made it clear that from day one that he doesn't want to be respectful of others or even try and be a part of this community. Instead of actually being respectful of someone's opinion, he reacts childishly to everybody that disagrees with him. The sad part is that when he isn't cursing like a little six-year-old who just learned what swear words are, he can actually be quite intelligent as displayed in this blog.
So Fulchrum is not afraid to drop a few F-bombs, what's the big deal? Some people swear, grow up.
Also, I'd like to add to your point of emulators, some games were not released in certain areas of the world and the only ways to play them would be to either by an imported copy of the game(but only if you had a console compatible to play the imported game, which may cost more money than buying your region's counterpart) or by using emulators. Emulation is the only way I am able to play the older Fire Emblem games.
You don't quite understand what irony is, do you?
"You snobby little shit." Ironic.
I like many of your blog posts, but this particular one contains attacks. You probably did make a few good points, but I just feel that the attacks could have been avoided.
With that said though, I do like some of the debate points you made in this post.
Have you read my style before?
Was the disrespectful cursing really necessary? You made many attacks in this blog post.