Windows 8 … Gabe Newell isn’t a fan of it
Microsoft is set launch the full version Windows 8, which the company feels will be an innovative product (not too mention a financial success) but Valve head-honcho Gabe Newell doesn’t share this sentiment. In fact, he doesn’t much care for the latest Windows update at all.
During his time at the Casual Connect conference, Newell was very outspoken about his distaste for the new software, saying that from a gaming standpoint, it will be “a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space.”
"I think we'll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that's true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality."
With that said, Newell thinks Linux could potentially stand up to the plate and save the dwindling PC gaming market, which is why Valve is currently hard at work to make Steam’s full 2,500 game library compatible with Linux. But he’s not raising his hopes too high because he feels Linux is holding itself back due to a lack of focus on games.
Wow. For someone of Gabe’s stature to come out so firmly against Windows 8, you better believe the folks at Microsoft are taking notice of what he has to say. Hopefully they’ll take it as a relevant criticism and work to improve any faults that could be found within the software, rather than taking it as an insult without merit.
If Newell has said this...then ouch.
Ubuntu already has, for a year and a half now, something like that, called Unity. It also is made with tablets and other touch things in mind. You can install extra stuff (they call those things lenses/scopes) for it. For example, you can install a lens that allows you to search on YouTube (etc) for video's without opening a browser.
So I still have no reason to give Windows 8 a try.
It would be an in-app purchase something that Apple has allowed as long as they see a percentage of it, they would most likely do the same thing.
They're investing in Linux because it's open source, Valve's job is to make money, and they are going to go to the place that will allow them to do that.
The thing I'm just annoyed by is Microsoft hasn't marketed an OS to be a "gaming platform" since Windows 98 where they had games certified for it because of the multimedia craze. An Operating System must be able to do a multitude of things and not just one thing. If Windows was originally JUST a gaming platform for the last 20 years and then all the sudden they closed it off as a developer I'd be mad too, but this isn't the case here.
Valve are resourceful people, they will find a way.
With the app store and the Xbox Live integration in Windows 8, Microsoft becomes a direct competitor to Steam. Why would they ever approve a Steam app for the app store? They wouldn't. It's Vendor Lock-In at work here. They don't want people buying games off of Steam; they want people buying games from the app store. So they're moving the OS into a position to make that possible. This isn't a minor inconvenience that Valve can "find a way around", this is a threat to their existence. They're investing in Linux while they still have the revenue streams to support that.
And a part of what Valve and Blizzard forget that games are only a portion of what Windows does. They will find a way around it, like I mentioned earlier they'll probably develop an app for their app store that will be the portal to Steam or BattleNet.
I wasn't talking about making money. I was talking about Microsoft starting the move towards locking down Windows. This is what Valve and Blizzard are worried about.
If I remember correctly, there was the word "kind of" somewhere in the “a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space” quote you put there. You might wish to include it back in.
No, YOU'RE saying people need to be trained, and I'm not trying to be rude or snarky by saying this. No one has to be trained into doing anything unless they are being compensated to do so unless it is for work. I have zero incentive to learn Unix, Linux, or MacOS because none of the applications I use on the regular are incompatible or unavailable.
Also that same 30% Apple asks for is on the iPhone and RiN said they'd only take 20% for the Blackberry Store and yet people continue to flock to Apple. Why? You said it yourself about Windows: Marketshare. They're going to make money off of this regardless.
Sorry, I meant learning the interface will allow access to programs faster. Start typing the name of a program and it auto searches, or set up pattern recognition. I wasn't making a system performance reference, just the interface for tablets.
They're old numbers, but Windows had over 90% of the market share over Mac OS X and Linux in 2008. Pretty sure very little has changed since then. The reason you don't hear this happening from the Mac app store is because people can easily move away from them. Practically everyone who uses a Mac will have some of experience and training in Windows. When Microsoft controls most of the OS market, most of the development will be happening on Windows, which means it's harder for anyone who relies on Windows programs to move away. People need to be trained to use a new OS and people need to use alternative programs. Microsoft can lock down their OS without too much fear of repercussions.
Completely the fault of devs that still hang onto DirectX for some weird reason. I wish Microsoft hadn't won the FUD-war years back, OpenGL is superior in every way compared to DirectX's rendering part, and SDL can replace what's left when it comes to taking input from control devices.
Not to forget, with DirectX, you only get your game on the 360 and Windows, when with OpenGL you get Windows, Linux, Mac and because OpenGL is so close to OpenGL ES, you also get the PS3, Wii, 3DS etc. The WiiU will also probably use OpenGL ES.
First off, a MAC does not run iOS, iOS is for the iPhone, and iPad, MACS run OSX, the MAC which is at it's heart now days is an Intel X86 based machine, in fact I can build an AMD X86 based machine, and get too run OSX if I really wanted too, and for less then 1/2 the cost on a MAC, it's not hard to get a copy OSX on a DVD off the internet for install, one last thing you don't have to run VISTA with all the AERO effects turned on, in fact in Windows XP - Windows 7, you can just run in classic mode, and that alone can speed up your computer. I have a computer with a quad core AMD Phenom II 8gigs of ram, and dual Nvidia GPU's in SLI, and still run in classic mode on Windows 7 ultimate 64bit for gaming rig. Next time please know what your talking about before commenting.
I still think Vista a piece of shit. UI changes makes things pretty but shits on performance, just like a Mac except at least Mac comes prebuilt with the hardware to run iOS.
Gaming on a Mac... didn't exactly work out.
Sure, Valve can bring all the Steam games onto Linux, but not Mac. Not fair!
But Gabe is still a great guy and Microsoft best not displease him any further or else they shall feel the wrath of Gabe!
Gayben: Fuck windows 8 we're switching to Linux&Open GL
I wish game companies would somehow make games playable on Macs, sure they're overpriced but the newer models can run a lot of the games
Thumbs up for Gabe.
And I'm sticking to 7 or XP (Stuck with a Vista though. Hehe)
I agree with Gabe. I've tried the Windows 8 release candidate, and its horrible, it looks ugly, is a mess to use. I mean seriously. Windows 7 is damn near perfect as it is. There should be two different versions of Windows. one for desktops, like Windows 7, and one for tablets, like Windows 8. The Metro UI on a desktop is just a mess. i am going to wait for Windows 9, at least