Posted on November 22, 2011 - 12:00am by Craig
Dr. Light has a special message for the g1s at ScrewAttack. New feature incoming!
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This is a common issue that g1's have nowadays. See link below.
Good in that you are becoming as open-minded as Overthinker himself, bad that you would write tl;dr-worthy comments.
How so, paisan?
You're starting to over-think, which could be good or bad if you ask me...
Man...quite a lot to reflect on with this thread so far.
1) As far as the "announcement" (which is more like a teaser) goes, I'm excited for what this might be, but given how James is busy working on the AVGN movie and that the regular run of AVGN episodes have slowed down to a trickle in order to accommodate the movie shoot, I can't imagine how he'd have the time to do a full collaboration of any kind with The GameOverthinker. I could definitely see James and Bob working together, but at least at this present moment, I highly doubt that it'll be something on a large scale.
2) While I'm not a huge fan of his series, I'm surprised to see so many g1s and other viewers bash what TGO is doing lately so much. Honestly, if you're coming into the show expecting deep narratives or even sketches along the lines of Jared's Nametags series, then you're barking up the wrong tree to begin with since TGO is a series that revolves around commentary and critique. It may be true that some of the story ideas that Bob has thrown in to mix things up on his show are a bit campy, but that's essentially the point of why he's been adding those elements in -- to have a little bit of fun without breaking the bank alongside his critiques and rants by tipping the hat and winking at various conventions in video game storytelling. In fact, you could say the skits with the Anti-Thinker and the Pyrothinker and the (insert name here) thinker are subtle bits of satire meant to encourage game designers to put a little more thought in how they use the medium to tell their stories so they don't end up so ridiculous...OR that it's satire meant to remind game designers to remember to have a bit of fun with how they tell their stories and not to take themselves too seriously. In this vein, bashing TGO's recent escapades is a lot like what might happen if you take some of your favorite cartoons from your childhood and watch them now as a [young] adult. You may be surprised to hear yourself think "man, this is so dumb" about something you used to get up every Saturday morning to watch back in the day.
With that, I'm stepping up possibly as a lone g1 to praise Bob's efforts to mix things up a bit on his show and have a little bit of fun. Again, I'm not going to say that I love everything he's done with his show most recently (I'd say at the very least that if he's going to keep coming up with new characters, he needs to lay off naming them all the [insert name here] Thinker, unless that's some kind of dig at Mega Man, but that's a stretch), but I'm glad he's keeping it fresh. If you don't like it, that's totally fine -- go watch something else or pick up a camera and make your own series for Screwattack then.
3) Finally, with respect to MathYou's comments, I have to agree that I don't feel the same sense of being part of a community on Screwattack as I did when I first came to the site. Granted, I was not active in the forums and I didn't make videos for the site when that was possible, but I did make some blog entries when I could (one of which helped me rediscover an arcade classic that I couldn't remember the name of for the life of me), and the talkback bar helped way more than the forums ever could with keeping a discussion going since you'd immediately know whether or not anyone responded to what you had to say. In spite of this, though, I wouldn't be so quick to say that Screwattack has gone the way of IGN as of late (which, ever since Matt C. and Bozon left, has tanked big time -- much of the content produced on the site has gone from insightful and informative to unintelligible and purely subjective), although if Craig and Co. aren't careful, Screwattack could easily slip down that slippery slope. What brought me to Screwattack was the AVGN, but what I *stayed* at Screwattack for was the community, the CotW's, and for the witty VGVs and Top 10's, particularly those that Craig has done WITH someone else on staff to provide sharp counterpoints to what he has to say. Sidescrollers continues to be a consistent highlight, but ever since they switched to video format and they *stopped* doing re-enactments of the Sidescrollers newsdesks stories, I've wondered why they even bother to use video instead of just recording audio. Hard News has also been a part of what keeps me coming back to Screwattack, but while Jared keeps it professional, I miss how Destin fooled around with Hard News once in a while (like when he started the show in a drive-thru).
Newer shows like Death Battle, meanwhile, have been fantastic, yet overall they don't leave nearly as much of a mark for me as something like Chad's short-lived in-depth How-To series, where you could actually learn something about how to extend your game on the hardware front. Screwin' Around has been great fun as well, but most of the time when I watch that show, it's only because I either wish I was actually there with the SA crew playing games with them or because I wish I was actually playing games with people I know personally, but I can't at the moment. If they incorporated Out of the Box into Screwin' Around whenever possible (given how they're so similar), that might be more incentive to keep watching.
I could go on, but I think I've said my piece for now. Hopefully someone from the SA crew will read up on these comments and take this feedback into consideration.
I'm sorry man. Jared commented me the other day and I debated coming back so when I saw Craig making some "big announcement" I thought it'd be a good time to reassess the new site and see how stuff was around the place. I'm not really digging it at all though. It's missing all the things that made me love the site and it's just pumped full of stuff I never came to Screwattack to see in the first place. I miss blogging on the site and joking around with all you guys so badly but it just wouldn't work in the same way anymore because of how the site is set up. It really gets me down and really I think that if the staff cared about the community that have got them to where they are they wouldn't shaft it so hard like they have done with this. Screwattack was amazing because everyone felt like an equal. We could speak up and talk with them and they appreciated the things we made. All of that just feels like it's been dumped in favour of going for a GT or IGN style site which really just does absolutely nothing for me.
I'm sorry to carry on ranting but I invested five years of my life into this website and it's gone in a direction that I'm sure Tom and Craig never intended it to. I guess that's life though isn't it.
I hope your well and everything, you'd best be keeping Sire warm on these cold winter nights! If he's still around of course...
Edit: What the hell is up with these comment boxes?! I feel like I'm using AOL messenger or something!
Mathyou? The hell man, you come back and don't tell us?
Story of my g1 life, man. What made Screwattack special was the community. Simple as that. And from there, its easy to see exactly what it was that was special. In the old community, there was friends, subscriptions and most importantly, the talkback bar. Other things that helped were the levels. Now, I know that those were controversial, but it showed you who was an active member of the community. And it also showed you how involved you were in the community. It wasn't a contest or anything.
And also, if you posted something, it would be right there on the front page, and then there was the chance to be spotlighted! I made every piece of work I submitted quality in hopes of hundreds of people being able to see it. But now if I DID post anything, it would be hidden in the bowels of the "Community" section.
Last thing. If I wanted trailers and news, I would go to IGN or GT. We had Hard News every day for that, but now even that (for me) is hidden away and forgotten.
I don't care what any of the staff say, the community is practically dead. The highest commented blog on the front of the community section (that wasn't g1news (instant front page)) had 4 comments. AND THAT WAS HYBRID RAIN!! I repeat, I don't care what Craig or anyone else says, the community is as dead as thought it would be.
Thank you, and good day.
Yes! They took my cross over idea!
I agree completely. I really hate screwattack now and I only come here on a regular basis to see if anything's changed for the better, which it hasn't. There's nothing funny to watch or read anymore. This site was awesome cause it was so different, now its gametrailers, but with less funny videos. Seriously, I look forward to a new HAWP than an screwattack video now
So it's a new feature with TGO and AVGN put together? Some kind of Q&A?
Well, as long as TGO doesn't put his irrelevant side stories all over it...
Hmmmmmm... I am intrigued. Can't wait to find out more.
And by "killing the community" I mean removing a lot of the interaction options around the blogging and comments. If any of the staff members can scroll down the community blog section and not feel supremely sad then I dispair. Would a g1 spotlight run by the staff members work now? Food for thought.
Here's an idea guys. How about something new to really get the ball rolling again.
This video only has 39 comments which I'm sure is the lowest ever for any sort of “site announcement" style video. Now I'm not saying that necessarily means there’s been a dip in traffic to the site, I obviously don't have the stats to back that up, but it sure looks like that from a quick look around the site. Surely announcing something big and new is a great way to pull back all the people that feel slightly disillusioned with "newattack" (horrible word but does the job explaining what I mean).
The thing is, TGO and AVGN are already established and while I'm sure whatever this project is it will be lovely, the fact remains that it's just the same old people. I know this comes as a revelation but a great deal of people found and subsequently loved the site through the partner shows of which there are now really only three on this website. There was literally people on the website (Game Theory and Retro Hunters to name just two) that would have brought something fresh to the site and maybe sparked stuff up a little bit.
It sounds so cliché but since you killed off the community there isn't really any reason to come to the site anymore. All the crazy partner shows are gone and a few key staff members have left which really just makes this a review website with a few miscellaneous “random” videos. To tell the brutal truth I only watched the video because I still have Craig on facebook and he posted about it.
Personally I think that's sad. I'm sure there's people that still adore the site but after a look around I really think you've killed everything that made Screwattack special.
I hope the future is great for you guys and maybe one day I'll feel the same way I used to about the site.
Hmm... TGO has some decent ideas for his show, but he isn't the greatest filmmaker in the world, so its usually kinda crappy quality. With him and James Rolfe, an incredibly competent one, I can see something I'll really enjoy coming out of this.
Yes! Something new for ScrewAttack! Oh wait... The Game Overthinker... bye
Well... I'l be looking forward to it.
So is Moviebob hosting an AVGN Q&A or something?
...that was a whole ton of confusion right there. I understand that it's trying to fit in with the theme of our latest Death Battle, but they could have just come out and said it. That would have been a lot less confusing.
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