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Also... dbz is the strongest? LOL this guy would like a word.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ltXhxwpj9E#
And this guy.
http://rs52.pbsrc.com/albums/g9/Takion_photos/Spawn163p082006eclipse-DCP...
And this guy.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/death-analysis-superman-bitch-slapping-a...
And many, MANY more.
That math would be fine and great if it was consistent with what Goku did. All he does is take punches and lazorz. What proof do we have that this punch is stronger than that punch or this lazor is stronger than these lazorz when they have the same goddamn effect throughout the series? (With very few exceptions)
"Goku is stronger, because he has a tail. Does Superman have a tail? No, so Goku is stronger and Sagat has a eyepatch so he is stronger too."
My brain...it...what!?
*Naruto: Madara spoilers ahead, unless you're up to date in the anime*
No, because in Naruto they all run away when Madara calls down 1 little meteor and when the second came 90% of em had a heartattack. Spiderman get's beaten by a fat man with 4 metallic arms, a lizard man and a rich guy and his father who both have multiple personalities. Spidey is strong, but Gambit can beat Spiderman in a game of poker without cheating. How about Blade vs Spiderman?
Yes, but that's because the person that trew it was for beyond superhuman strenght. Yes, one moment Superman can lift an Kryptonite continent and in the next he get's defeated by a piece of Kryptonite Batman keeps in his belt. Inconsistencies are everywhere, but we tend to avoid those. DBZ is the stongest in the world Marvel, Capcom, DC have all ripped the Superhero genre. Toriyama said it himself in the Daizenshuu from "93. His exact words were:"They stole my idea." The only person that might beat Goku is Sagat, because he is the fighter with the best style of all the fighters, even Kryptonian, only Goku is stronger, because he has a tail. Does Superman have a tail? No, so Goku is stronger and Sagat has a eyepatch so he is stronger too.
I mean, you are aware that Spider-Man beat Galactus right? http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111148699/3802244-956...
Nah Spider-Man would beat Android 18 far too quickly for it to be fair. Maybe Sakura Haruno could put up a better fight against Spidey though.
Wasn't i supposed to be the biased one? Spiderman couldn't even beat Yamcha...probably, but he can never beat Krillin. I'm guessing that you want to see Spiderman vs Android 18.
I mean if Akira Toriyama wanted to rip off Capcom, he could of at least tried to make DBZ stronger than SF.
Goku got hurt by a rock, for crying out loud! Even Superman Returns Supes could lift a kryptonite continent, there is very little doubt in my mind that if Lois Lane shot Goku he would die. Heck, Goku's hand got crushed by an elephant at one point, an elephant! Balrog can one hit kill elephants, meaning that DBZ is technically weaker than Street Fighter lol.
Spider-Man still solos DBZ. What is there to discuss when Superman is infinitely more powerful than Spider-Man and Goku would lose to Aunt May?
@CGG
"Pre-Crisis Superman's power is 1/50 of a supernova tells me all I need to know about your biased mindset"
The man in tights is getting powercuts by the dosin here. I don't know if his power is 1/50th of a supernova, i'm still guessing in his Andromeda feat, a feat of which i haven't made my own estimations yet. I mean give me break, i'm trying to give him a fair trial here, i'm even reading Worlds at war here, to keep this discussion going fair. I can't count on the fanboys here, because untill last week they've been yelling Mageddhun like Randy from SouthPark was yelling Obahmah. Now it's Imperiex who seized his destruction of worlds to travell to Earth, because Superman had beaten up his drone. For the readers who have been tuned in for ages, apparently this is the "ceremony" Showzilla was talking about. Imperiex's drones destroyed planets, one at a time and when one drone got beaten up, he decided to travell to the source and beat him up.
I might've made some errors. A white dwarf is between 1.2 and 1.4x our sun (in mass). If Goku was (300k:13K) 22 times stronger (Than SSJ1) he'd be able to destroy the Sun. So 22x50= 1100 this means 55000 for base not 165000. This means that i have to do 165000:55000 = 3. This means that the outcomes for the Type 1 and 2 Supernovas has to be multiplied by 3. This makes: Type 1: 1775.73 to 1522.05 Type 2: 221.7 to 190.2
@Fanboy
Depends on the type, if it is a white dwarf then, he'd have to be 1100 times stronger as he was as an SSJ1 or 165000x his base on Namek. If i'd use Screwattacks gravity formula then he'd be able to block this. 586 x 4000 (SSJ mutlipliers is) = 2344000, this means that he becomes 2344000 times stronger than his base was before he turned SSJ1. Which means that he is able to block about 710.3 suns. Which means that he can destroy between 591.91 and 507.35 White dwarfs (Type 1 Supernovas).
Type 2 Supernovas have a minimal of having 8x more mass than Type 1 Supernovas. So we divide the outcome between 8 and hope that it is above 50. 591.91 : 8 = 73.9 and 507.35 : 8 = 63.41. So Goku could destroy between 73.9 and 63.4 Type 1 Supernovas.
I was reluctant to use these outcomes, because it conflicts with the powerlevels in the wikia. But after close inspection i saw that the way Goku's powerlevels were written down was only Namekian base x super saiyan form he fought in, you can look it up yourself. So Screwattack did a great job in noticing this and adding the gravity training.
Thank you Fanboy, you have proven your loyalty to us. (Show, your man might be a double agent)
@Archevil Goku does not beat Superman, he does not even beat Aunt May as Galactus' herald, and yes that was a thing. That's absolutely pathetic and the fact that you are implying 50 supernovas would not kill Goku meanwhile Pre-Crisis Superman's power is 1/50 of a supernova tells me all I need to know about your biased mindset.
Superman runs a train through dbz and 90% of the other boring series' that Shonen Jump drags on. Deal with it already.
*implies that even 50 supernovas isn't enough to trump Goku*
http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/deadpool%20commo...
@CGG
I'd be dissappointed too if i'd see my hero getting decimated by the rookie on the forum. You have seen that if Superman doesn't lives up to his expectations in the Imperiex saga that Goku wins hands down. It looks bad for the man in tights, you know, with him presently being maxed out at 50 supernovas and all.
@CGG, Huey and Lewey
And there is no flaw in the explanation i gave when i explained that the only reason we know that a SSJ1 has 50x his normal power is because we see this in his powerlevel meaning that powerscaling is not irrelevant untill the end of the Namek saga (at the very least). IF we are back in 2007 it's because people had to be brought back to school.
Oh and ntmu, i'll do my best to impress you next time empress.
It really feels as if you guys already know that Goku is the real winner and that you all are trolling me by saying that he isn't, but that's probably not what is going on here.
Ah well, at least we're not getting anymore of this: http://i.imgur.com/KU5IO.jpg
@Showzilla A certain somebody told me to check out Archevil's posts on this video. I am disappoint.
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