Extra Credits Season 4, Episode 11: "Harassment"
This week, we tackle the rampant bullying, misogyny and hate speech that occurs within the gaming community.
Ask Microsoft Support for the tools we need to stop harassment here!
Come discuss this topic in the forums!
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Hmmm, why do I have a feeling that this is a US-thing? I live in europe and I barely get any bad messages on xbox live (aside from 'you n00b' or 'you suck' from a sore loser once or twice a month) and seeing this heavy message-sending-business, I wonder just how often US-gamers get loaded with this kind of harassment....
LOL WHOA "can i poop on ur chest"
Is it wrong that I like Alison's idea at 2:27? :)
One solution, though this could be seen as controversial: Destroy the notion of a separate online culture. As the Internet becomes more integrated in our lives, we can no longer say that some things are ok because you are on the internet and that, more and more, our actions in the internet need to reflect behaviour in real life. I'm not against humor, and a lot of people know how to take a joke, but there are times when things are taken to fucking far.
Funny how all those messages had terrible spelling and grammar. It suggests that those kind of people are idiots.
You know, companies have the right to legally deny users the use of their online service and any or/and all services associated with that service. Swearing at everyone on Call of Duty is different from publishing your own website with your own hosting and domain name based on a podcast where you swear at everyone. The online service is Activision's (or Microsoft's/Sony's for consoles). They own the domain, web hosting, servers, and whatever else is used to play the game online. The service isn't yours, so auto-muting players based on bad rep (popular opinion of users) is technologically and legally possible.
its sucks that no matter what fandom anyone belongs to its the crazys that get all the atenttion and everyone starts saying oh well everyone in x fandom is crazy because of those that but when in reallity they are not all crazy the majoraty is not its just the small portion but sadly they are getting all the attention
its true what they are saying gamers were and some still are the friendly people in the world but some people abuse a system and makes it bad for everyone-_-
This really makes me remember the time when I was somewhere around 11 years old. It was the time before "normal" people (not nerds) used the internet. It may even sound weird but in general people were nice back then, especially considering I was just a child(and quite a newbie of course). I could ask for help on how something works or how someone did something and people would be friendly and helpful. All this considering I'm not from a country that has english as a native toungue, therefore not always making the most sense and me playing shooters, which is now the cesspool for bad behaviour
With this I'm not saying there were no people being assholes, but far less of them. I think this has a lot to do with the fact that everyone online was a nerd. Everyone actually had something in common with the people they were playing with, a lot more then the people they know in their direct "real life" environment. This of course makes people much happier to be communicating with each other and share.
It could be I'm just remembering it a bit romanticized. Well anyway, please leave your thoughts.
Even though I don't do online gaming nor voice chat during a game (as mostly I don't have the equipment/games to do it), that kind of behavior is precisely why I would generally avoid engaging in it. I get enough "cutting down" in my own life, I do not need to add it to a game that I usually get enjoyment from. I agree with the tools that are being proposed, it won't stop the jerks from spewing their trash but it will give the community weapons as to not hear them so the game can be enjoyed.
Most of the harrasment messages you showed looked like guys who got their asses handed to them by a girl and then decided to cry about it. Man up and stop using such language. Dropping the f-bomb after every three words makes you look like a child.
I'm sure Microsoft will implement the auto mute function, but it'll take months of research to figure out just when should Auto-mute be on. Should it be on after 40 players muted him? What's the duration of the auto-mute?What if someone is just having a bad day and just wants to relief stress online? Heck if the player gets auto-muted 3 times, he/she gets banned from Xbox live temporarily just to tell him, stop swearing. It's a good idea but hard to pinpoint, when it should be done and for how long.
Harrassment is definitely one of the biggest issues in the gaming community, and we do need to fix it. Gaming should be for everyone and everyone should feel welcomed while playing.
It's interesting to note that had Xbox LIVE existed back in 1932, there would've likely been far less of this type of behavior toward any hypothetical female users.
Hell, what I heard on Cross Assault was rather mild compared to the taunts often exchanged between men playing the same games.
My demonic opinions on sensitive topics not withstanding, I don't see any point in the vitriol encountered frequently over online play. I'm too busy trying to have fun to spare a minute just to call someone a freak; if I want to do that or use cruder language, I prefer going to a "marriage equality" rally or something and doing it there.
As long as the proposed solutions are applied consistently (no anti-white, anti-Christian or anti-conservative harassment), I say let's make them happen.
I like these ideas, and the discussion around the advantages and disadvantages of them was pretty solid. I think more of these sorts of things need to implemented to reduce the harassment that goes on online, for sure. The current systems in place just don't work all too well.
The thing is, I personally don't pay for Xbox LIVE because, apart from my brother having the 360 in his room now (because it's his), I got completely sick of all the stupid children and other people with horrible language and bad attitudes on there. I was already annoyed with paying for Xbox LIVE when PSN is completely free and just as good, but it just really put me off playing online. Sure, there are some decent people too, and there are also a bunch of retards who play on PSN and..... well, any online service, but that doesn't get rid of the idiots that ARE there.
All this crap that goes on online is what really puts me off online multiplayer, and one of the main reasons that I don't play it much (apart from the fact that it can get repetitive and a little boring, something which I don't like).
It's funny. I can rage when I'm playing with my brother, and it might turn into a fight, but I guess that's somewhat normal. However, if I'm playing local multiplayer of any kind with friends (supposedly I have some), then it's fun. I think the best example would be Mario Party After Dark. I mean, everyone trash-talks each other, they swear at each other, they insult each other, but at the end of the day, they're all friends, and it's all harmless fun. I mean, they're playing MARIO PARTY. It's not life-or-death.
I do think it's easier when you're playing with other people sitting right next to you, though. It feels more natural. That's one thing that I wish more modern games had - local multiplayer. I have so many games that I can play online with, but only a handful have local multiplayer in any form. I hate that.
I would rather not mention it here in the comments, so as to avoid angering anyone who visits there as well as here, but I'll PM you the name of the site.
Mind sharing which site that was? I have an idea myself. I'd just like to see if it's the same one I'm thinking.
What ever happened to friendly ribbing and good-natured competition? I've never understood why people feel the need to be so crass. Just play the game and enjoy. I guarantee the game is 100% more enjoyable when everyone works together and gets along.
Really like the auto mute function. Blocking messages idea needs some fine tuning I think. Have messages flagged by suspected "trash talking" should be put in a "spam" folder that you can look if you want but for the most part is out of sight and therefore out of mind.