Extra Credits Season 4, Episode 6: "Mass Effect 3 DLC"
This week, Mass Effect 3 gives us a chance to talk some more about DLC.
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When I used to play clone wars adventures I thought it was so cool that when I bought star wars action figures (which I already liked) I got in game currency. People may think that is stupid and should never be used, but it was a win win for me. If devs only attatched dlc to things that their target audience would already by (like the star was thing previously mentioned). It would also be cool if you didn't get dlc but just in game skins or colors for buying things many would buy on thier own. Like the green and black crystal for swtor merch.
DLC is fine, but it should add to a complete game. Capcom and EA are examples of companies abusing the fans of the games they're involved with, but there are companies who have it down right. For example, the new Tekken Tag game has had DLC announced but has been confirmed to be FREE.
I think Game Developers should just stop with DLC. It's being abused way to much. It was originally made to expand a game. Now it's just being used to unlock things that are already on a disc. If companies really wanted to use DLC properly then there shouldn't be any day one DLC. Why? Because if you work on a game and have already made DLC for the first day then that means you originally intended to make it a part of the over all experience. Meaning that you are locking away content that would have been put into the game 6 years ago. It just doesn't make sense to DLC at all unless you want to make more money off a game that probably doesn't deserve more content then it originally had.
next episode can you talk about that thing that hapend with hatsune miku. you know how all videos staring her might be deleted from youtube. savemiku
Why do I feel like I've watched this video before?...weird.
Halo Reach legendary edition is a prime example. Some people waned it for the flaming helmet but had to spend so much money on this box that comes with all merch and statues
Simple answer to this....if you want DLC....get the DLC...if you don't...then don't...you're not forced to...same with games...if you don't want the game don't buy it.
Now that they finished talking about DLC now they need to talk about dlc (disk locked content). This is getting annoying. I know companies have to make money but this way isn't right. Hell capcom just dropped a full two letter grades in the rating system of the better business bureau. I bet EA is next and a bunch of other companies as well that do the disk locked content. http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=175395. I dont mind DLC I buy it to support a game I like and I enjoy the extra content. Granted I hate when that content is already made and on the disk and I have to pay 20 or more dollars for it on top of the 60 I already paid for a game.
Yea I think ways of getting DLC is getting stupid >_<.
Yeah, this. People make the WEIRDEST assumptions.
That was very enjoyable, can't wait for more.
Hmmm I never really thought of the certification process.... good point. But then what about Street fighter x tekken on disc dlc, thats pretty jammy. I personally think that DLC should never of been invented, it has blatently been abused, and in engulfing more companies as we speak. Look at square, Final Fantasy XIII-2 is being flooded with DLC! When they announced the arena, I was super excited, I expected to see a FFX style arena with all the enemies already in the game, I visit and its completely empty. I just feel like I was conned, and I don't think I should be paying extra to fight against enemies. What is also quite worrying is that Nintendo seems interested in the possibility, I respect Nintendo immensely and I don't think that if they did take it on board, they would abuse it, but maybe they will see the money flow in and wouldn't be able to stop themselves. I liked that you also touched on DLC being used to push other products, which is rather silly but the Kingdom of Amalur demo DLC was a smart move. Kingdoms of Amular wasn't getting a lot of attention, and everyone and their mum knows that Mass Effect 3 was coming out. It may of been a weird combination, but what else could they do? Something that you didn't touch on was DLC to drive the product itself, and by that I mean pre-order bonuses. This really frustrates me, if I don't buy the game and risk my money before its released, I won't ever be able to experience the full game. Saying that I don't think all pre-order bonuses are bad, getting an art book, a soundtrack or a metal case, its much fairer, as its not required to experience the full game. Its still a little dodgy as it could easily just be a bate to reel you into a bad game.
Bottom line is DLC is, in my opinion, generally a bad thing.
But the thing you're forgetting is that companies still need to sell the base game, and no-ones gonna buy a game like that. If they cut out all the content like you said, no-one would buy the base game, meaning they couldn't then sell the DLC. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot, and they know it.
I see this argument alot, and virtually all of them seem to come from the slippery slope fallacy.
What I fear is escalation of the DLC. Final Fantasy for example has always had side quest as part of the game. It would be unfortunate to see something along the lines of the main game being sold as is and then all side quest being sold as DLC. It may just start as Gilgamesh, but how long before your paying for the side quest that used to be part of the main game traditionally? Call me paranoid but I dont put it past companies to do these things gradually over time. I think it is important to put a cap on these sort of things personally...btw great addition to my analogy
I still think however, that this idea of "up sizing" can in the end, potentially turn into a way to cheat the consumer.
No, you got the sweet and sour sauce with it. You have every last bit of content you would get otherwise. What you're doing is then demanding that your fries be upsized for nothing.
Im not saying that anyone is entitled to DLC either (or sweet n sour sauce for that matter) ....I just simply see it as a cash grab.
youre entitled to your opinion and view point, but it is never over my friend...my stance, although perhaps over simplified I admit, is that this is like if I buy Chicken McNuggets and then have to pay for the sweet and sour sauce.