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The Game OverThinker - Episode 40 "Heavens to Metroid!"

9/1/11 9:16am

The OverThinker has a different take on the controversial “Other M.”

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duyentrangr82

April 23, 2013 - 10:11am

The OverThinker has a different take on the controversial “Other M.”chatrandom

bane dragon

February 26, 2013 - 8:55pm

I'm sorry, Bob, but around 5:25-5:30 is about the time you lost me on this. "superficial, fundamentally unimportant narative" is just begging the question of whether or not you even care about story in gameplay (even when it's a minor aspect). Portaying Samus Aran as a character who is really so blatantly stupid as to go into a searing hot area without equipping the fire-resistant armor that she HAS AVAILIABLE (authorized or not) is a slap in the face of everything she had been built on before (i.e. ignoring orders on the grounds that they were wrong, a vague sense that she was trying to prevent a migraine every time something goes wrong because she's not there, etc.) It's not that they made the higher-up say they needed authorization in order to use something, it's that Samus blindly obeys even when it's inane or even dangerous to comply.

Also, comparing it to a simple name change like "temple to church" is missing the point. It's just not the same. If you don't have something, fine. You improvise. If you do have the exact item needed and simply don't use it in a dangerous situation because you "aren't allowed" isn't even childish. It's stupid. Any person who values their life that little (or is portrayed as caring that little) doesn't deserve it. That anyone thought that was good storytelling is just playing a masculine power fantasy fanfic with one of the female characters that defined that it could be something besides that.

Before you go back to the "strawman" arguement, I'm not saying it's because of her being submissive. I'm saying it is completely the wrong way to go about it. Affection? Fine. Willingness to comply? Fine (within reason. see the next sentence). Willingness to comply with an order that puts you in actual danger of extreme bodily harm in any way shape or form? Not fine. Not at all. It someone tells you your orders are to go into a tank of sharks and not come out until one of you is not living, and you do it, you are not "willing to comply" you are an idiot.

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January 22, 2013 - 1:16pm

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Linklex7

November 19, 2012 - 4:40am

I have to respectfully disagree on your opinion about Other M being a good game. I thought using the d pad in a 3d environment just felt frustrating. However, I see where you coming from with the rest of your video, and I can respect that. Good job.

zakery86

October 8, 2012 - 6:12pm

hi dont know if u will ever read this but during 2003 a metroid manga with a back story and more by nintendo here is a link http://mangafox.me/manga/metroid/

MeEmmanuel

February 5, 2012 - 9:50pm

Wasn't there a short manga series that gave some back story on Samus?

orangeapples

December 11, 2011 - 3:44am

Here is my understanding of Samus: She is a Bounty Hunter who is commonly hired by the Galactic Federation. Her previous missions from the GF were "Go here and destroy the Space Pirates. Doing research is a bonus." Pretty much that's all she's ever had to do looking at Metroid, II, Super, Prime, Prime 2, Fusion. I didn't play Hunters and I've been on hiatus from Prime 3, so I'll probably have to start over to figure out what has been going on.

Other M showed us another aspect of Samus as an intergalactic traveler: Someone who responds to distress calls. This is one of the few times she just happens to be somewhere. Adam being there was just a matter of chance. Adam is a ranking official for the Galactic federation so he is by proxy the Galactic Federation so she'll take his orders as to not piss of her main employer. Samus likes her job, so following Adam's orders was just wise job security. Samus also has respect for the man as he was her main father figure. It also makes sense that not all of her weaponry would be appropriate for the mission at hand. Her weaponry is a mobile arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. Much of it possibly modified GF equipment to be compatible. Not suited for a rescue mission.

Overall I kinda liked Other M, but it isn't without her flaws.

The emotionless delivery of Samus' lines came off as if they were trying to make her stoic. They really could not have made her more monotone. Couldn't they have gotten the same voice who did Brawl? We all liked that voice. She was kinda snarky. I like snarky . That's how real people are.

Okay, as I said, I understand why Adam wanted to restrict the use of Samus' weaponry, but why her armor? It would have made much more sense to say her Hyper Beam from Super Metroid overloaded her Power Suit systems and many of the functions had been lost like the armor and weapons storage. They could re-install all of the functions but she would have to remain on the base for some time, or she can leave without everything and she decided she's fine with the basic armor system. THEN when she finds herself in the lava filled room where Samus is taking heavy damage from heat Adam directs Samus to the room where she can get the heat protective upgrade. Just saying, "Don't use your armor" is pretty stupid.

Adam's character could have been handled better. He comes off as a douchebag, and even though he gets better (kinda, not really), I didn't like him as much as I think the developers wanted me to. I still felt he was an asshat and I wanted to punch him in the face.

These problems for me were what made me want to hit my head into the wall. For me the faults of the game were not the characterization because I liked the characters. It wasn't the gameplay because the gameplay was pretty awesome. The sound was good. Lots of good stuff. But the writing was rather weak and the delivery was pretty bad from Samus.

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