Game OverThinker - Episode 69 "AFTERMASS"
The OverThinker dives into the deep end of the Mass Effect 3 ending discussion (no spoilers!) in the wake of the DLC announcement.
I agree with GO on this one
no its a youtube video but it may as well be since it's pretty long. I can't really go into it without ruining it but check out this link when you have the time, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_GkEBck
that a documentary?....
wow what the fuck happened to my enters in my reply ._.? does a single enter register as a fucking space now?.......
yeah it does , wow gay , ok so now i gotta edit this slightly....
eh that's fair enough i guess , though i would argue against that position , although im curious now what kind of places do you get your news from?...
though i would disagree with that as well , "politics" is just a label , it's all just everybody saying opinions about everything , it's just bob has lately been making a shift from talking about personal stuff for him and more to what's being talked about in current g&ngos......
there you just said it again , "I would have no right to complain" , are you for real? i thought companies figured out it was a bad business model to silent feedback from their consumers decades ago (not like they care now though or that real dissent is literally silenced......)
lol you've bought dvd packs with discs missing in them before?.....
hehe yeah people who purchase apple products are like that , though i haven't herd any specific complaints about apple , course they are still a very evil bunch....
but that's not even close to what the occupier's are protesting , here are 2 quick videos covering the broad spectrum of the movement that i instantly found by doing a quick search.....
1. Incorrect information? Nothing I said was incorrect. I'm from NY where I see those parasites too often. I've heard them on the streets & in interviews & they are huge hypocrites. And the reason I avoid political discussions on this site is because I read, listen to, and watch actual news, as opposed to propaganda, on a daily basis. So like many others (I'm guessing the majority of g1s), I come to sites like ScrewAttack to get away from political discussions, interjections, or references because I get saturated with info enough as it is. I don't need to watch videos here with that sort of thing. The thing is, I used to like this show a lot, but lately it's getting more political remarks & jabs thrown in. That sort of thing turns off half the audience & isn't needed. In contrast, I know some of the ScrewAttack HQ staff has political opinions that are contrary to my own. The difference with them is that they don't throw it in my face. I'm totally fine with that. And I wouldn't want those who I would agree with politically to start making political jabs either because I'd rather have no politics divide the community here. Without jabs like that, the g1s can remain united for the #1 reason they come to this site---gaming.
And aside from the political jabs, another thing I have to say is that the last few episodes have gotten pretty repetitious regarding the subject matter of Call of Duty, Mass Effect, etc. Even without the political jabs, this wouldn't have been much better. It's a shame because I like the plot he's doing here with the RetroThinker/NecroThinker, but the serious part wasn't as good as I've seen TGOT do in the past. I thought his episode on game preservation was amazing. I'm not sure if he's running out of ideas, but if he is, then maybe it's time to stop the show. I'll hold off on saying anything more about that until I see the next few episodes.
2. I have no idea what you mean. All I know is that if I buy a piece of media (game, music, movie, etc), I expect it to be operational & physically meet quality standards (meaning no scratches, no cracked case, all items that should be included are included, etc). I'm actually very anal about this since I did a lot of QA work in my career & don't expect to buy something broken or not up to par regarding its condition & functionality. I've bought TV show DVD sets on a few occasions that I exchanged because they were missing a DVD, had cracked cases, or scratched DVDs. But as far as the quality of the actual work on the media, I would have no right to complain about it since I took a risk as with any such product. I never in my life tried to take a game or anything else back because I thought it sucked. I never had a lot of money so I take a lot of time before purchasing something. If I buy a CD that mostly has songs that suck, whose fault is it? That's tough shit for me. That's how it's been traditionally. It's one thing if people back in the days before the internet complained about something they bought turning out to be shitty, but in the days of the internet when doing research on something is incredibly easy, there is no excuse. Any movie/game/music/etc a person buys has the potential of turning out crappy. It's a risk. If you don't want to take the risk then don't buy it, or wait until others buy it first & analyze their reaction. Complaining about it beyond what is normal (like demanding stuff from the owner of the work) is bullshit & is the bitch thing to do. Anyone who buys a game or any product when it first comes out is taking a risk. If they can't wait to get the reactions of others, then that's tough luck for them. This is true even & especially with cars. If you check out Consumer Reports, the first few years of every model have more problems than the later years when such problems get resolved.
3. They complain about corporations in general because they hate capitalism. I've heard one of their main arguments being that the corporations control the money & the executives & employees of corporations (or at least a segment of them) are the "1%" who also control the money. Yet they buy products from all sorts of corporations, all of which fit the "controlling the money" paradigm they have and all of which have executives, which these people put in this "1%" category. For example, *many* of them complain about Apple, yet most/many of them have Apple products which they would have purchased. And by purchasing these products, they support the very corporations and help pay the salaries of the very executives they stand against. If they weren't hypocrites, they would go live in the woods without any clothes or any product sold at any store. Or at best buy products only from companies that fit their paradigm. But that's not what they do, hence they're hypocrites.
4. I did complain for like 5 minutes. But did I ever threaten to sue the production company or any of the cast or staff that made the movie? Absolutely not. And did I ever bombard the internet with comments against such a movie---no. That would a waste of my time, and time is valuable. So by bitching about it more, I would just be screwing myself even more by losing valuable time on top of the money I would have paid to see a shitty movie.
Mr. Overthinker, the twist of the necrothinker being the retrothinker was dark and saddening and i did not like it. I do not like it when my villains are not 100% unambigously evil. I and my fellow overthinker fans will now start a retake the overthinker movement until you fix this twist so that it is not depressing.
fuck it this whole episode DAMN RIGHT.
2:50 to 3:46 DAMN RIGHT.
I got a question, has Bob played FF XIII-2 yet? And if he has, what did he think OF THAT ENDING?!!
Both Klonoa games had pretty sad endings haha.
My god this show is getting hard to watch. The main and only complain about the ending is not the disappointment about the outcome itself, is the half-assed way that it was executed, only like a minute of cinematic. We don't ask for a whole remake of the game, the game itself was awesome, we just ask for an epilogue with a better explanation for the characters that we have become so attached to after hounders of hours invested in 3 different games. There is no way you could understand if you don't actually play the games (which I can totally tell you haven't), just watching the endings doesn't entitle you to act all high and mighty, do a proper research.
The irony being here of course that Bob is by far the biggest baby of all, spouting strawman arguments and diving under a rock when somebody less important than him breaks it down. And what was with the whole film thing at the end? Crappy rushed ending that makes no sense is completely different than people being unhappy with a downer ending. See what I said about stawmen? Try harder Bob, the three little pigs could make a better case on the issue than you.
I agree with everything said in this video and couldn't have possibly said it better myself!
EVERYONE NEEDS TO WATCH THE INDOCTRINATION THEORY!!! It will seriously change your whole view of the ending
I think what Moviebob is trying to say... Is that people need to grow the $%^& up and stop taking themselves so %^&ing seriously.
It does if you pay attention to the lore. No trade, no communication, no greater civilization, no unity, and every major home world had been ravaged by the Reapers to some extent already (places like Thessia and Palavin will have trouble recovering of their own accord if they can do it at all, and I don't see any way Earth can recover). We just disagree on this point. I found the ending empty and unsatisfying, and honestly it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The last scene is my faithful crew running from the battle (they are running, please don't make me explain why), and they just get dumped on some random jungle planet. Especially since Bioware had ample opportunity to make the ending make sense with other aspects they'd already placed into the series, it was just a disappointing effort from a great studio and team. Amazing game. Terrible ending. And that matters because story is a major play aesthetic of the Mass Effect series. I think we're on the same page, we just have differing opinions :).
The UN-able-bodied krogan and the krogan females could repopulate Tuchanka, and the whole point behind retaking Rannoch was so the quarians would have a place to shelter their civilian population during the fighting. Also, if you ask me, the ending didn't show enough to imply much of anything xD
I think they would send almost all of their population. It's a fight to death for the very survival of the galaxy, why hold anything back? The entire Quarian fleet is there, and that has consisted of their entire species for three centuries. Wrex is definitely there, and knowing the Krogan, every single able-body would want to fight the Reapers. I see your point, but the ending just heavily implies that galactic society crumbles to pieces as a result of the relay destruction. When I beat the game I felt like I screwed the galaxy just as hard the Reapers would have...it didn't really feel like I saved anything.
I'm pretty sure the various races didn't send their entire populations to the Sol system, especially in the case of the Krogan and the Quarians (because that would just be plain silly), so I don't think it's fair to say everything you did amounted to *absolutely* nothing - but yeah, it's a pretty big downer that everyone who went to save Earth is now stuck there indefinitely.
However, I also believe that the destruction of the relay network was a crucial part of breaking the cycle and freeing the galaxy from the Reapers. Remember what Legion said back in 2 about how relying on the technology of others blinds you to alternatives? With the relays destroyed the younger races are free to strike out and chart their own courses.
wait how are multiple story choice video games different narrative wise from choose your own adventure books?......