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Game Theory - Call of Duty: Modern War Crimes

1/25/12 11:18pm

Are the heroes in the Call of Duty franchise really war criminals? The Red Cross seems to think so and they want them tried for their crimes. Should they be?

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g1 DISCUSSIONS

MatPat13

January 27, 2012 - 10:44am

I think you hit the nail on the head! Researching this episode, I was surprised to find that the first game doesn't have that many ridiculous moments and stays pretty accurate to its title of "Modern Warfare." But as the series went on, the war crime tally started to go through the roof and the "set piece" moments occurred every mission--very Michael Bay-esque. It became less about "What's the story we want to tell" and more of "What cool thing can we blow up next?" As a result, the soldiers went from being fairly realistic soldier characters to super soldier Jack Bauer taking no prisoners. Which is too bad. I do think the series could have had something powerful to say without me having to overthink (am I allowed to say that?) the whole thing.

sable

January 25, 2012 - 11:54pm

Daaaang!! talk about a VERY interesting show... dunno at least the last 2 featured on Screwattack this far, they've been incredibly well done. Its one of those rare shows (either tv or internet) that leaves me saying at the end "Hell that was interesting"

They Call Me The Fizz

January 25, 2012 - 11:54pm

Great episode and interesting perspective on the whole "Call of War Crime" debate although I think you put more thought into the aftermath than Activision and Infinity Ward did...

Also, calling out the Overthinker, are we? I've got your back...

Two-Bit Specialist

January 26, 2012 - 1:04am

You have my axe.

MatPat13

January 27, 2012 - 10:52am

Me? Calling out the Overthinker? I can't imagine what gave you that impression... Let's be honest, my end goal is to be featured on his show just to see what my _____thinker villain name would be.

I appreciate both the back protection and the Two-Bit axe in my quest, comrades.

koopashellpwn

January 25, 2012 - 11:54pm

Really like the show.Very informative and goes really deep into the topic.Keep up the good work!

Ben Singer

January 25, 2012 - 11:50pm

I dunno. Aside from the fact that such regulation should be performed during wartime and not just afterward, the victor's justice is never actually implemented in CoD, but implied and romanticized. Basically, the CoD games actually ENCOURAGE breaking the RL rules if you win, which the Red Cross certainly opposes. Granted, that idea's been around since the very beginnings of story telling. But I think the easiest way to describe this case is it's very "Michael Bay."

Regardless, VERY good and well thought out episode!

MatPat13

January 27, 2012 - 11:40am

Thanks for the comment Ben. Your comparison with Michael Bay is right on. I was surprised that the first game was fairly true to its "Modern Warfare" title, even down to protecting the church in the "Death from Above" mission. But as the series went on, the Bay mentality took over and realism went out the window. Set piece moments became the norm and with those big scenes came the romanticized version of the solider as a vigilante "one-man-army." Inevitably, this brought with it more incentive to breach wartime protocol like you said.

Had they at least mentioned the conventions to acknowledge that they're breaking them, that would have been a big step. I think Metal Gear Solid did a great job with that. In the first game's torture scene, Ocelot specifically mentions the Geneva Conventions, then dismisses them as a means of justifying his actions. At the time, the allusion went over my head, but looking back I think that detail makes all the difference and could have saved Call of Duty from some of the grief it's taken from the Red Cross.

darkhyrulelord

January 25, 2012 - 11:52pm

They should just make a movie called Transformers: Call of Duty.

Cyborg_Slime

January 26, 2012 - 1:00am

that actually sounds like a legit movie title XD

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